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1671. Posted by Elephant596 (First Time Poster 1 posts) 2w Star this if you like it!

Hello I commented on this thread under the name elephant93 on pages 158 and 159, I read this forum nearly daily because I were panicking about lieing so much, so I thought it were only fair to come back and tell my story of how it went.

So I lied on the esta...it were approved months in advance, the day of the flight came and I were panicking, everything were just as normal going through the uk airport apart from 2 people randomly searching people going onto the plane after they scan your boarding card. I filled out the card on the plane which mentioned nothing about convictions I'm guessing because it had been asked on the esta? It were More questions about bringing in food, we finally arrived at Las Vegas airport and I just wanted to get through security! Took about 15 minutes to que and get to a boarder agent then the computers crashed as we were in front of him, I expected a stern miserable person asking prying questions but it were quite the opposite nice man who kept trying our biometrics as the computer were loading but then finally... he stamped my passport and I were in! We had a great holiday. I did see somebody being escorted from one of the boarder agent desk into a back room but that could have been anything.

Thank you to everybody who came back and put their success story's on because I can see now how after you come back and you've had your holiday, and you aren't worried, you just go back to your life and don't think about sharing how it went.

1672. Posted by aggle (Budding Member 7 posts) 1w Star this if you like it!

Quoting lucylooxx

Hi!
ive read alot of this thread and haven't found the answer I've been looking for...

I have possession of escatasy i got this when i was 18, im 21 now.. Silly mistake with wrong group of friends...
i decided to apply for visa (I paid interview fee) ... I searched online and found it would be better off lying on esta..

I applied for esta and came back accepted.

My questions are :
Will my visa application flag up when I go through?
What will happen if I do get pulled over?

Thanks any help would be great, I made a silly mistake applying for the visa and don't know what to do now!

Xx

If I was you I would have waited a few more years, at least 5 and then applied for a visa.

I'm not sure if your visa application will be flagged up but on the esta you will have to lie and if it does get flagged then I could imagine some questions will be asked

You really should have just done one or the other

Hope it works out

1673. Posted by Query17 (Budding Member 2 posts) 1w Star this if you like it!

Hi!

I have read through this very helpful forum but I have a few questions myself. Group of us thinking of travelling to Florida from UK next year. Amongst the group we have a police assault from 6years ago which resulted in a £450 fine (first and only offence), stalking charge (Couple split up & it got a bit OTT) & shoplifting charges. Should we go down the visa route or do you think we would be OK declaring 'No' on ESTA?

CHEERS

1674. Posted by aggle (Budding Member 7 posts) 1w Star this if you like it!

Quoting Query17

Hi!

I have read through this very helpful forum but I have a few questions myself. Group of us thinking of travelling to Florida from UK next year. Amongst the group we have a police assault from 6years ago which resulted in a £450 fine (first and only offence), stalking charge (Couple split up & it got a bit OTT) & shoplifting charges. Should we go down the visa route or do you think we would be OK declaring 'No' on ESTA?

CHEERS

I don't think stalking or shoplifting come under moral turpitude but it's worth looking into

The assault may be ok as it's been a while since the incident

You probably will be ok going the visa route but obviously i'm not an immigration lawyer, so not an expert

If you declare NO, most likely you will get in but once you've declared NO once, it's more difficult to go the visa route later on and if caught at the border you'll be fucked

If your going to declare NO, fly from Belfast instead. They have a US border, so if you get told no it's less of a journey home and apparently it's easier to get through at that boarder control

If you do go the visa route go to the embassy in belfast, again people have a higher success rate using that embassy instead of London

1675. Posted by Query17 (Budding Member 2 posts) 1w Star this if you like it!

Thanks for your response aggle, you've given me plenty to the about ;)

1676. Posted by Kate1726 (Budding Member 4 posts) 1w Star this if you like it!

Hi everyone.
I'm from the UK. I have only ever gone on holiday to Spain over the yrs.
3 yrs ago I wasn't arrested but did end up in court for benefit fraud - no excuse but wasn't at a stable point in my life and was really struggling mad a silly mistake.
I was convicted and received 6 months in prison suspended for a year which is obviously now up. Never been in any trouble other than that. I also received a probation and community order a fine and was tagged for 6 months.
Now this is all behind me and I'm at a new happy chapter of my life me and partner are wanting to take our 3 children for a holiday in florida.
Earlier today I have applied for my esta and have ticked yes for being convicted ext for moral turpitude. I know this won't be accepted and the next step will be to go to the embassy for a visa...
Am I right? Does anyone think there's a high chance of obtaing a visa with a crime like that on my record??
Any advice appriciated.
Thanks

[ Edit: Edited on 11-Aug-2017, at 06:19 by Kate1726 ]

1677. Posted by aggle (Budding Member 7 posts) 1w Star this if you like it!

Quoting Kate1726

Hi everyone.
I'm from the UK. I have only ever gone on holiday to Spain over the yrs.
3 yrs ago I wasn't arrested but did end up in court for benefit fraud - no excuse but wasn't at a stable point in my life and was really struggling mad a silly mistake.
I was convicted and received 6 months in prison suspended for a year which is obviously now up. Never been in any trouble other than that. I also received a probation and community order a fine and was tagged for 6 months.
Now this is all behind me and I'm at a new happy chapter of my life me and partner are wanting to take our 3 children for a holiday in florida.
Earlier today I have applied for my esta and have ticked yes for being convicted ext for moral turpitude. I know this won't be accepted and the next step will be to go to the embassy for a visa...
Am I right? Does anyone think there's a high chance of obtaing a visa with a crime like that on my record??
Any advice appriciated.
Thanks

You didn't need to apply for an esta, if you want a visa just apply at the embassy

To be fair I doubt you would be able to get a visa with your crimes still being so recent

Anything under 5 years is going to be a no and fraud is taken pretty seriously

My advice would be wait a few more years

1678. Posted by Kate1726 (Budding Member 4 posts) 1w Star this if you like it!

Thanks for the reply.

It's worth a shot.... I'm going to try if not will try again in a few yrs 😭😭😭

[ Edit: Edited on 11-Aug-2017, at 07:24 by Kate1726 ]

1679. Posted by roofio (Budding Member 5 posts) 1w Star this if you like it!

Hi Kate, not sure where Aggle is getting his/her information fron but the guidelines are fairly explicit:

Have you ever been arrested or convicted for a crime that resulted in serious damage to property, or serious harm to another person or government authority?

Have you ever violated any law related to possessing, using or distributing illegal drugs?

Do you seek to engage in or have you ever engaged in terrorist activities, espionage, sabotage or genocide?

Have you ever committed fraud or misrepresented yourself to obtain, or assist others to obtain, a visa or entry into the United States?

From your disclosure I think you can answer No to all questions.

I strongly urge you to use the guidance on Unlock.org. I'll post a link below. The ESTA application is separate to the US Embassy for London Guidance, which is a little less transparent.

http://hub.unlock.org.uk/knowledgebase/travelling-us-need-visa/

Furthermore, I would suggest that the evidence of higher success rates in Belfast is highly anecdotal. You are receiving very limited information on here and possibly other websites; you can't build a clear picture. The Belfast embassy is more transparent on the waiver of ineligibility process as they publish the applications online. It is also less busy than London by the by and this may expedite your application. If you were found ineligible for a Visa, they all have to be processed by Department for Homeland Security, regardless of the point of application.

You are eligible for the VWP anyway so none of the above should be relevant to you.

1680. Posted by Kate1726 (Budding Member 4 posts) 1w Star this if you like it!

Thankyou. When I filled out the esta the question I answered said "have you ever been arrested or convicted of moral terpitude" I answered yes to that because I didn't understand what that was and when I googled it .... fraud and fraud towards the government was listed so I thought I'd be honest.
Obviously this is now going to be returned as denied.... so when filling out the visa form do I answer the question of....."harm to the goverment" it's so awkward....
Stressful.... if I am honest about the crime which so far I have been and I didn't serve an actual custodial scentance and was a short suspended scentance do you think they will accept this.... If kind of fucked myself by answering yes on the esta.
???
It's so complicated.
Thankyou x