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11. Posted by Rraven (Travel Guru 5924 posts) 10y

Quoting Isadora

Fred? Spoiled??? I hear they even have a special little wok just for cooking his chicken...

well its the only way to make sure his chicken doesn't get mixed up with ours.... the spices would make him sick,,,

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12. Posted by Isadora (Travel Guru 13926 posts) 10y

Quoting raven

Quoting Isadora

Fred? Spoiled??? I hear they even have a special little wok just for cooking his chicken...

well its the only way to make sure his chicken doesn't get mixed up with ours.... the spices would make him sick,,,

Yeah, I hear curry is not part of a cat's normal diet... But then, I don't think the top of a scones is either...

I can't leave fresh plums or nectarines out on the counter to ripen. Ellie (our one "inherited" cat) loves fruit and will take a bite or two out of each piece. I'm guessing she's looking for the sweetest one. She also loves papaya, strawberries and cantalope.

13. Posted by Purdy (Travel Guru 3546 posts) 10y

Quoting Isadora}

I can't leave fresh plums or nectarines out on the counter to ripen. Ellie (our one "inherited" cat) loves fruit and will take a bite or two out of each piece. I'm guessing she's looking for the sweetest one. She also loves papaya, strawberries and cantalope.

Ellie's very healthy isnt she!! Purdy will eat Pringles and cheese loves them, and l friend of mine smokes roll ups and if she smells the tobacco pouch in her bag she will actually go into her bag and steal it out of it!! Very bad habits!!

14. Posted by summer910 (Respected Member 1342 posts) 10y

I'm curious. What sort of human food can we actually give our cats? I haven't allowed Wafe to have any, don't want to spoil him and I'm also not sure what to give and what not to. Right now, because of his condition, he's on prescription diet and I do give him cranberry (for cats) twice a week. Other than that, I haven't let him have Pringles or whatnot.

15. Posted by Purdy (Travel Guru 3546 posts) 10y

I dont think that they are REALLY supposed to eat human food but eating a few Pringles doesnt harm here and it is only now and again, but then again she doesnt have a health condition either. But lm sure Isa will be able to give you a much more comprehensive answer!

16. Posted by Isadora (Travel Guru 13926 posts) 10y

Quoting summer910

I'm curious. What sort of human food can we actually give our cats? I haven't allowed Wafe to have any, don't want to spoil him and I'm also not sure what to give and what not to. Right now, because of his condition, he's on prescription diet and I do give him cranberry (for cats) twice a week. Other than that, I haven't let him have Pringles or whatnot.

A Pringle now and again won't be a problem, but it would be better if they didn't get it... Mainly because of the salt content and, if it is a flavored one - such as green onion - it could be a big problem. Onions, in any form, (and Tylenol for that matter) contain a chemical which can cause Heinz body anemia in cats. (I believe it is named after the scientist who first discovered this type of anemic red blood cell, not the ketchup company.) Even in a regular Pringles, onion powder may have been added in small quantities to improve the over-all flavor. I'm not sure since I haven't looked at the labeling.

People food, especially packaged products have a lot of chemicals and flavoring agents added to them. What is safe for us may not be safe for your cat. Particular preservatives are harmful to them too, though not to us. Mainly because of the quanitiy of the preservative. What is a small dose when feed to a 125 pound person isn't a small dose to a 5 pound cat.

Things such as steamed or raw vegies may be okay. Mushrooms and onions are ones that are not. Unseasoned chicken or lean beef are okay in small amounts, as a "tidbit" now and again. But, if your cat is being fed a good quality cat food - the treats are just added calories (possibly causing obesity over time), promoting bad habits (is: begging at the table) and reducing their hunger in general. That piece of chicken is not well-balanced, but eating it reduces the amount of cat food your pet may eat later.

As far as Wafe is concerned, he should only eat the diet he's on to help prevent further urinary problems. The cranberry supplement aids in keeping the sediment in his urine to a minimum. A cat with an already existing health issue should not get people food in any form unless recommended by the vet as a supplement. Prior to specialty diets being produced, owners would have to prepare the special diets using people food. Now, that doesn't need to be the case - and it was rarely effective anyway.

Vegetarian pet diets are also not a good idea. Cats are omnivores - not vegetarians. Their primary food is meat with greenery eaten to aid digestion or promote vomiting. There has yet to be a "complete" vegetarian diet developed for cats (or dogs) that is truly complete. There are particular amino acids and other compounds that are necessary for maintaining good health that can only be found in meat products. Artificially produced versions of those compounds and vegetable replacements are not metabolized by the body as effectively and nutritionally useless.

Here's a list of things your cat shouldn't have:
Potentially Poisonous Foods

17. Posted by summer910 (Respected Member 1342 posts) 10y

Thanks Isa for that detailed breakdown on the foods that may be harmful to cats, even though it might not seem so at first glance. I'm glad I haven't given Wafe any human food - would have been harder to get him off it. Haven't heard of vegetarian diets for cats

Just took a look at the list of potentially poisonous foods for pets. Wow, even raisins can be harmful, and I love those...

One thing I noticed, and have read online: is it true that cats don't like any citrus smells? Usually Wafe is very curious about smells, but sometimes when I have a glass of orange juice and he comes over to see what's in the glass, but he backs away almost immediately.

18. Posted by Pardus (Respected Member 2356 posts) 10y

I've noticed the citrus thing with our cats at home, too... They don't like the smell at all.

And for the veg thing... Now that's just ridiculous. Cat's are omnivores and not giving them meat is against their nature. So if you want to have a pet feed it their natural food and if you don't want to, don't get that sort of pet.
The same goes for the cooking for your pet thing. There are people out there who cook whole meals for their pets and that is really unnatural. I don't mind the odd treat if it fits in with the natural diet (eg. piece of chicken, unseasoned) but treating them like humans foodwise is just wrong.
I do love animals and I think we should make sure they have the best live we can give them, and that means understanding their natural instincts/requirements and treat them accordingly.

{Phil steps off the soap box and starts dreaming about a huge vivarium filled with lizards and tropical plants...}

19. Posted by Isadora (Travel Guru 13926 posts) 10y

Quoting summer910

One thing I noticed, and have read online: is it true that cats don't like any citrus smells? Usually Wafe is very curious about smells, but sometimes when I have a glass of orange juice and he comes over to see what's in the glass, but he backs away almost immediately.

Quoting Pardus

I've noticed the citrus thing with our cats at home, too... They don't like the smell at all.

Cats do not like strong smells that are not you, food or pleasure related (their idea of food, that is). Pleasure-related smells are things like catnip and mints (all in the same family of plants), and flowers such as roses and African violets. The "you" scent is self-explanatory. Because of this dislike for citrus smells, many of the cat repellents on the market are citrus-based. A cat may avoid an owner "for no known reason" (to the owner), if their cologne, detergent or fabric softener are "lemony fresh".

  • Jun, one of the citrus repellents may be useful to you for those old areas Wafe used when he was sick. (I didn't even think of it before. D'oh!!! )

One of our inside cats (Harry) likes rum and vodka. We don't give him any, but he keeps trying to get in there for a lick whenever possible. His brother (Louis) keeps thinking he likes coffee (served black). He loves the smell, but when I put a drop on his tongue - the interest wanes quickly.

20. Posted by summer910 (Respected Member 1342 posts) 10y

Quoting Isadora

*Jun, one of the citrus repellents may be useful to you for those old areas Wafe used when he was sick. (I didn't even think of it before. D'oh!!! )

LOL, it's okay! But it's one more tactic to keep in mind should he show a desire to return to the old spot... so far, it's not been the case, and I'm relieved.

Another thing... does your cat kick up a yowling fuss if you have to go to the bathroom for a shower? Mine does, I don't know why. Once the door shuts, he starts meowing his head off. Even though I'd have told him previously that I was gonna shower, he still does it, without fail. I've noticed this happens when I get home from work and head for the shower a while later. Bit strange.

Also, he'll bite my legs. I know he's playful, but is there any way to stop him from doing that? I've tried saying the firm "No", but it doesn't seem to work.