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1. Posted by ashneel (Budding Member 3 posts) 10y

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Hi! We (my husband, daughter n I) are travelling to Switzerland, Austria and Germany for 3 weeks in July.
We will be staying in Leukerbad(Valais),Switzerland; in Hinterthal(69 kms fm Salzburg),Austria;
and in Mitterfels(99 kms fm. Munich), Germany.
What I need help with is
a. Since we are in a remote part of Switzerland, what will we be able to do- all the things I want to do, seem to be far away-Jungfrau, Lucerne, Montreux, Lagano or Lucarno etc. Matterhorn is possible I think.Can anyone help me with what is "do-able" staying in Leukerbad. And if there are any other not to be missed places around the Valais????(as for WHY am I staying in Leukerbad-long story)
b. Any beautiful villages in Austria not to be missed?
c. What are the must-sees in Germany, that are do-able, staying in Mitterfels?
Is a Rhine cruise possibe?
Any help will be highly appreciated.
Thanks.

2. Posted by Pardus (Respected Member 2356 posts) 10y

Leukerbad is not that far away as such. I even think it's still in Berne and not Valais (but I could be wrong and might get stoned by the Valais activists)

The Jungfrau Region is not far at all, you're quite close in Leukerbad. It's in the Bernese Highlands. But be warned, there's a train going up there and it is VERY expensive. But there's beatiful surroundings anywhere this are and it's great for hikes.
The hiking trails are very well signposted and maintained so you have no problems at all. You'll be walking amongst towering mountains, climbing over fences into cowfields with the cows looking at you funny.
Will you be driving in Switzerland or using the train system?
Montreux will be feasible as a daytrip, so are the other locations. Switzerland is rather small as such and the trainsystem is very good.
But I think you shouldn't try to take in too much, most of these areas are quite similar and you are in a beatiful surrounding already in Leukerbad.
If you're in Montreux or around that area (or other areas in Valais) try to get to a Vineyard. There are plenty of them around in Valais.
If you have the time you could try to get to the Ballenberg Open Air Museum (I think it's around Interlaken). It's a great place, they have lots of old buildings from different parts of the country restored to what they looked like and you can go into them and look at the furniture. And in some of them they are making cheese and crafts.
But the main thing I would recommend is to go hiking while you're in Leukerbad, it's a great spot for it.
If you give me some more details about what you're interested in most and how much time you have I can give you more advice.

3. Posted by moscowmetr (Full Member 267 posts) 10y

Sicher nicht ist Leukerbad im Berne, Dass isch Oberwallis. ;)

a) Leukerbad is not really remote. My mom did a summer season there whe she was 17, it supposed to be really beautiful and relaxing. If you like nature and the wellness thing, you are at one of the premier spots in euroland. You are 2:20hrs by train from Matterhorn, 1:40hrs from Montreux, 2:00hrs from Lausanne and really only 1:15hrs from martigny which at the moment has a remarkable Rodin exhibition going on. There posters promoting it as far away as Zurich. Pardus is right. I dont really like the swiss wine at all but you should give it a try and see what you think, go down to Sion and hook up a tour from there or something.

4. Posted by moscowmetr (Full Member 267 posts) 10y

Sicher nicht ist Leukerbad im Berne, Dass isch Oberwallis. ;)

a) Leukerbad is not really remote. My mom did a summer season there whe she was 17, it supposed to be really beautiful and relaxing. If you like nature and the wellness thing, you are at one of the premier spots in euroland. You are 2:20hrs by train from Matterhorn, 1:40hrs from Montreux, 2:00hrs from Lausanne and really only 1:15hrs from martigny which at the moment has a remarkable Rodin exhibition going on. There posters promoting it as far away as Zurich. Pardus is right. I dont really like the swiss wine at all but you should give it a try and see what you think, go down to Sion and hook up a tour from there or something.

5. Posted by Pardus (Respected Member 2356 posts) 10y

Quoting moscowmetr

Sicher nicht ist Leukerbad im Berne, Dass isch Oberwallis. ;)

Ah, Leukerbad isch aenet aem Hubel, denn?

Okay, I stand corrected.

But it should be part of Berne, together with the Jura and the Vaud!!!!!
We'll flatten the Jura and make it into a nice big Parking lot for the Pharma companies in Bale!

Bring back the Bernese Duchy and damn Napoleon!!!

{Runs off to avoid the Jurassic Killing Commando and tries to find the people responsible for defiling the Unspunnen Stone}

6. Posted by t_maia (Travel Guru 3289 posts) 10y

Germany:

Mitterfels is so small, it wasn't even on my road atlas of Germany, which is very detailed. I had to look it up on meinestadt.de and there I found that it has three roads and a hundred houses at the most. You'll be lucky if there is a bus connection to Straubing, the next (very small) town.

From Straubing it shouldn't be a problem to go to Regensburg, Passau and Munich by train. Passau is very nice, you can do a three-river-cruise for 14 EUR and go to one of the famous organ concerts as well as visit the Veste Oberhaus, a castle overlooking the city. The national park "Bayrischer Wald" is also not very far from Mitterfels.

If you are more into something spectacular, you might like Pullman City.(Entry is 9,50 EUR).

From Munich you should also try to make your way to Dachau:
http://www.kz-gedenkstaette-dachau.de/englisch/content/index.htm

7. Posted by ashneel (Budding Member 3 posts) 10y

Wow!! Thank U guys! Lots of info to chew on .....
Let me check out all the options U guys have suggested n I shall be back with further queries.We do plan to use the train systen while in Switzerland...
t_maia, we plan to rent a car while in Germany - I think that wud be most feasible considering we r 3 people n also taking into consideration the location we r staying at.
Thank U guys ..... I shall be back....

8. Posted by t_maia (Travel Guru 3289 posts) 10y

If you plan on renting, you could try Sixt. Should be 49 EUR per day on the student special plus fuel. Litre is 1.30 EUR.

So travel with bus and trains on the Bayern-Ticket would be cheaper. The ticket is available online for 25 EUR per day online at www.bahn.de (27 EUR at the ticket counter in the train station) and covers for up five people at all RB and RE trains, commuting unions and most buses from 9:00 am on during weekdays, on non-working days the whole day.

So if you are four, you pay 6.25/6.75 EUR per day and person on the Bayern-Ticket.

BTW, the homepage of Mitterfels:

http://www.mitterfels.de/Tour-eng.htm

MAP

There are bus connections from/to Bogen and Straubing every few hours, especially in the morning and the afternoon. Simply check on www.bahn.de beforehand.

If you are staying with friends, try to get them to pick you up from Bogen, it is only ten minutes by car and might be not too much of a hassle.

Due to the prices, I do not recommend renting a car, unless you are travelling with small children.

9. Posted by t_maia (Travel Guru 3289 posts) 10y

Duh, dumb map link:

Go to
http://cms.tourismus-straubing-bogen.de/

and click on "Urlaubsregion" in the yellow bar on top of the page. Then on "Panoramakarte" or the pretty colorful sqaure picture of a map in the middle. Tada!

I highly recommend printing that map out.

It makes also sense to run the whole website through google translator, it is a whealth of information on the region!

10. Posted by t_maia (Travel Guru 3289 posts) 10y

I've found some more info:

The local bus company is RBO, Regionalbus Ostbayern, and the Bayern-Ticket is valid for your trips to and from Straubing and Bogen on them.

See http://www.rbo.de/ for a picture of a typical bus.

There is a bus from Mitterfels at

05:36, 06:34, 07:00, 07:23, 8:35, 10:30, 13:34, 14:43, 17:35, 18:35 hours and another in the middle of the night, the "Partybus"

either going to Bogen or Straubing.

From Bogen or Straubing the return buses are of similar frequency.

The buses run all over Eastern Bavaria as far down as Passau and into the Czech Republic and Austria, you should have no problems getting around.