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1. Posted by Gugi (Budding Member 7 posts) 10y

There are three of us travelling anound eastern europe for the 1st time this summer...We are going...

Riga - Tallin
Tallin - Kiev
Kiev - Odessa
Odessa - Varna
Varna - Cluj Napoca
Cluj Napoca - Budapest
Budapest - Dubrovnik
Dubrovnik - Spit
Split - Bratislava
Bratlislava - Vienna - Bratislava
Bratislava - Prague

Does anyone have any info on accomodation, travelling between these points (other than the flights) and any other general info!!

Also is it timeconsuming/problematic to get a visa for belorus - and is it worth visiting???

Please help me!!!

2. Posted by moscowmetr (Full Member 267 posts) 10y

Hey Gugi,

Straight up awsome itinerary.

I did a trip around the Black Sea a couple years back, maybe can give some tips.

Riga to Tallin is easy by bus. Both cities are top notch and you wont have a difficult time finding your way around, also the fun will find you. You can approach people on the street and suggest you are tourists and that you want to party and it wont be long before people will take you along on a night out and show you around.:) I would not visit the Baltics without a stop in Vinius though, the best of the three capitals in my opinion. Just something to consider.

Tallinn to Kiev, whoa...alot of ground to cover there. That is a long haul mate, Belarus requires visa and there is not much to see, really. Depends on what you are looking for ofcourse. Minsk is Soviet Cities revisited. It maybe an experience, but I would suggest maybe skipping it, take the bus through Poland to Warsaw and train into Kiev. You will need a Ukraine visa ofcourse.

Kiev has some cool stuff to see and is inexpensive, even the Holiday Inn at the the end of the main street that leads into the train station (up a bit of a hill, looking right at it when you exit the train station) is not that pricey. I had to get a hostel (which was just a cheap hotel) a good ways away from the centre. Free Museums and Art galleries, just say your a student. Ill never forget walking around the centre on a summer night, It is total Art Deco and made me feel like I was in a version of Gotham City. Has a subway and wasy to get around.

Kiev-Odessa,take an overnight train. This is another good haul to the coast. you can get cheaper train tickets if you goto the train office right beside the Holiday Inn in Kiev, avoid lines by making a left left to a smaller often empty room full of cashier windows when you enter the main doors. Didnt goto Odessa, headed to Sevastopol instead.

I guess you are planning to take a boat to Varna from there since taking the bus or something around the coast is really hard and the train line runs over Kiev. The boat schedules cant really be trusted and you should look into what season, days they are running, lines etc.

Varna is nothing so special, kinda eastern euro vegas type resort town. Went outta season, but it was tacky.

Cluj in Romanina was alright. Found some student hang out bar. didnt stay long enough and the whole city was overtaken by some absolutly massive European medical convention. Almost every room in the city was booked out. And middle aged doctor types were everywhere.

Kluj to Buda by train again, Keleti Pu. m favorite station. Budapest is a backpakers haven and youll have a great time looking around and meeting people. Ive heard that Yellow Submarine hostel is quite good and is near Budapest Nyugati Station.

Have not been to Croate or Bratislava. Great first trip man. Your gonna have fun.


3. Posted by Alicja (Budding Member 238 posts) 10y

I strongly advise you to visit Poland.I really don't know why your plan don't include Poland.It is worth to see and nice country.More informations on thread What fo you want know about Poland? in Europe forum.If you decide to visit Poland,write to me and I can give you more informations.

4. Posted by nickla (Respected Member 223 posts) 10y


How long are you planning on going for? You are looking at covereing some rather large distances in your itinery, and could spend a significant portion of ur trip travelling! I mean, you would really have to fly from budapest to Dubrovnik, or else it would take you forever to get there


This is a really useful website, you can look at any european train times and can work out how long it will take u to get places.

If u have ne other questions, just holler.


5. Posted by Gugi (Budding Member 7 posts) 10y

Hi guys...

Ta for the info.

Not going to Poland as I went there last spring...a truely awesome place but unfortunatly funds dont stretch as far as alllowing me to go again!

We will be flying in and out of croatia to save time as its quite cheap but we were thinking of travelling by night most of the time to try and catch up some days (and save money!) there decent tran-national buses or would trains be the best bet?

Are visas difficult to get for belorus or should we just fork out to fly over it all?


6. Posted by BlankFrack (Respected Member 280 posts) 10y

I would definitely say fly over Belarus, you're going from Tallin to Kiev, I don't know how long that takes but it would be over 24 hours on a train I imagine. It probably isn't that expensive and would save you the visa hassle - try Air Baltic, you can probably get a one way ticket from Riga to Kiev for about 50-60 euros looking at the tarrif

Incidentally is there a reason why you're going to Riga first because if you're traveling by train or bus it would be a bit easier starting at Tallinn and then going to Riga.

7. Posted by Gugi (Budding Member 7 posts) 10y

Flying into Riga as we got really cheap flight from the UK...although with hindsight it was false economy...we live and learn!

8. Posted by coldwarspy (Travel Guru 1108 posts) 10y

Varna to Cluj
your missing the best of Transylvania! stop in Brasov and Sigisoara - Cluj is nice but very modern and mainly Hungarian.

and ignore MoscowMeter's

Cluj in Romanina was alright. Found some student hang out bar. didnt stay long enough and the whole city was overtaken by some absolutly massive European medical convention. Almost every room in the city was booked out. And middle aged doctor types were everywhere.

Moscowmetre - that was in East Slovakia you mongoloid...we were in Lavoca where that medical convention was and the student bar...where i tried to knock down that old man statue...Cluj was where we went to the bar that had the fishtank...

9. Posted by coldwarspy (Travel Guru 1108 posts) 10y

i also noticed a huge whole in ur itin...Ur missing Vilnius! prob the best of the Baltic cities and one of my fav spots in the world. Reconsider.

10. Posted by Mise x1 (Budding Member 6 posts) 10y

Hey !not trying to rob attention from original post but........this day 2 weeks i'll by arrioving in Krakow,plan is Krakow-Vienna
Budapest-Prague then heading down to.........
Croatia(brac Island)-Bulgaria

Any words of wisdom for me??