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1. Posted by oktavijan (Budding Member 6 posts) 10y

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I am planing trip to Ukraine. Do you know somthing about this countrey? Have you some advices wich places should I visit and wich not? I can't imagine Black See, is it worth to see?

2. Posted by t_maia (Travel Guru 3289 posts) 10y

I've been to the Ukraine, but unfortunately I stepped into a pothole on my second day there and broke my leg really bad. (This was Friday 13th May 2005 in front of the HI hostel in Kiev Yaroslavska Street 10.) But I went there after having 12 years lessons in Russian and Sovjet culture and history, so I know a bit of the country.

Lviv (Lemberg/Lvov) is very nice. You can still see the old houses. Passing through with the bus however I found it a bit depressing because of how rundown everything was. Lviv is like a 90-years old woman dressed in black lace: you can see that she was very beautiful once but now all that beauty is gone and all that is left is old age and the memory of the grand days in the past.

Kiev on the other hand is heaving, you can feel it in the air. The city is young again, waiting for her second bridegroom the European Union to take her for new adventures. There is business everywhere, money changed, bright hope for the future. The number of cheap hostels is rising, from 1 in last year to 4-5 right now all bookable over the internet.

On the Black Sea Odessa and the Krim area with Sevastpol is very interesting. It used to be and still is the major holiday spot of the Russian elite. If you want beaches, this is the way to go.

The Ukraine itself is very cheap, cost of travel and food is a joke. The only major setback is the hotel costs. It is a bit better now, but in 2005 even the dirtiest Sovjet era hotel started at 50 USD a night.

It helps knowing Polish or Russian, hardly anybody speaks English.

In Kiev the Tourist Information and Accomodation service is directly in front of the train station.

Tell me what you are interested in, I got a big fat guidebook of Kiev and the Ukraine lying directly in front of me. (No, not the Lonely Planet. A regional one written by an Ukrainian woman in Russian.)

3. Posted by oktavijan (Budding Member 6 posts) 10y

Thanks for useful information. I have never been so far on The East and I am not sure what I can expect.
You said that almost nobady speaks english. What about acommodation? You said that in Kiev there are meny chip hostels? What about Crimea? Do you know somthing about Tatars in Ukraine?
Somehow, I can not belive that on the northern part of the black coast see there are beautifull beaches. Could you compare beachis in Crimea with Greec or Croatia?
And, what about acommodation on Crimea? Are any camps?

4. Posted by t_maia (Travel Guru 3289 posts) 10y

I have never been so far on The East and I am not sure what I can expect.

Lots of open country, wide stretches of land that nobody farms on and very poor people.

What about acommodation?

Difficult, because in the Ukraine people either are too poor to travel or are rich enough to pay the prices of the big hotels.

It is only different in Kiev, there are five hostels there.

http://www.hostelsweb.com/cities/kiev.html

http://www.hihostels.com.ua/en/
http://www.hihostels.com.ua/en/hostel_ukr/

Do you know somthing about Tatars in Ukraine?

No, but wikipedia does:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tatar

Could you compare beachis in Crimea with Greec or Croatia?

I didn't get to the beaches, because I broke my leg. Stupid thing still hurts.

And since I've never been to Greece or Croatia either, I couldn't compare it anyway.

And, what about acommodation on Crimea? Are any camps?

There is a camping site in Odessa:

http://www.delfin.odessa.ua/

and a youth hostel on the Crim:

http://www.hihostels.com.ua/en/hostel_ukr/hostel_balaklava/

Another camping site in the Ukraine:

http://www.sssr.cz/plugins.php?name=News&op=category&cid=79

And some useful info:

http://www.uazone.net/

5. Posted by oktavijan (Budding Member 6 posts) 10y

Thank you very much. Very useful information. You are well informed about Ukraine.