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21. Posted by Clarabell (Travel Guru 1696 posts) 10y

Quoting mimulus

Quoting grasshoppa

AUSTRALIAN RULES FOOTY!!!!! GO THE CATS

exsquuuueezzzeee me????

I wouldn't say I was proud to be British, there's a lot not to be proud of but at the same time, cultural diversity and our (relative to most of the world) liberal attitude to asylum seekers...

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I'm not usually proud to be British either, but thats what makes it interesting more to think about.

I would add our contribution to the arts: eg contemporary music, literature, design, fashion, that kind of thing....

22. Posted by cbt (Budding Member 9 posts) 10y

Hi,

I was born in the UK, and left for Australia when I was 4. I spent 25 years in Australia and have been back in the UK for the lasy two years.

I consider myself Australian and am extremely proud to be a part of such a country, for the following reasons:

Embracing religion - the last 2 companies I worked for built specific prayer rooms to embrace culture
Cost of Living - Compared to the UK where I spend 70% of my salary on just getting by, in Australia I spend 30%
Integration of cultures - with Sydney and Qld embracing Asia, and Melbourne embracing Europe it is refreshing to live in a society that truly welcomes different cultures. I love the fact that I can get my phone bill in 9 different langauges.
Water quality - higher than any other country
Sporting acheivements - with a country population of circa 21 mil .. we can send over 400 pe
ople to the Olympics ... yet with population circa 55 mil plus the UK struggle to send 100
My petrol in Aus costs circa - 30p in the UK it costs 90p
I am dumbfounded at how unfriendly Europe is to folks with a disability, yet in Aus companies are mandated by law to provide access to folk with disabilties
MRSA - never heard of it in Aus
Doctor? - In Aus I can choose my own .. yet here I am forced to go to the one in my specfic area
Unisex toilets in Australia - all for one, one for all, embracing sexuality
Hollywood stars from such a small society - Nicole Kidman, Russel Crowe, Baz Lurhman etc ..
Brilliant roads and road rules, may seem harsh sometimes but have dramatically decreased road deaths
Marvellous airports, modern and up to date.
Culturally accepting and encourgaing, Melbourne as an example with Lygon Street, Brunswick Street, Smith Street, St Kilda, Caulfield

I could go on for years ... best I stop now ... however ... one more point to James from Aus.

Hey James:

Hoping that your last message was both sarcastic and ignorant.

I have had two roles in Australia that actually had a policy and quota of recruiting indigenous people.

This meant that we were forced to recruit indigenous people over people that were actually skilled to do the job.

In addition, these folk were also paid an additional allowance, over and above our other employees, because they were indigenous.

During this time, I also had to accept that these folk could not be disciplined for non-performance (like our other employees) unless an elder performed the task, and I also had to accept the fact that they would leave work for a few hours a day knowing they could not be reprimanded, and should they choose to leave on their own accord greater welfare benefits.

This left a situation of more pay, less hours, no disciplinary action.

I am far from racist having dated, employed and lived with indigenous folk.

However, whilst our society may be rich ... and perceived as milk and honey.

The Australian government is extremely generous and supportive, to all.

Charlotte

23. Posted by Jase007 (Travel Guru 8870 posts) 10y

New Zealand:

All the sheep, cheap wellington boots, velcro gloves and lots of steep cliffs

Oh, and the ability to take the piss ;)

[ Edit: Edited at Jun 7, 2006 1:04 PM by Jase007 ]

24. Posted by james (Travel Guru 4136 posts) 10y

Quoting cbt

Hi,

I was born in the UK, and left for Australia when I was 4. I spent 25 years in Australia and have been back in the UK for the lasy two years.

I consider myself Australian and am extremely proud to be a part of such a country, for the following reasons:

Embracing religion - the last 2 companies I worked for built specific prayer rooms to embrace culture
Cost of Living - Compared to the UK where I spend 70% of my salary on just getting by, in Australia I spend 30%
Integration of cultures - with Sydney and Qld embracing Asia, and Melbourne embracing Europe it is refreshing to live in a society that truly welcomes different cultures. I love the fact that I can get my phone bill in 9 different langauges.
Water quality - higher than any other country
Sporting acheivements - with a country population of circa 21 mil .. we can send over 400 pe
ople to the Olympics ... yet with population circa 55 mil plus the UK struggle to send 100
My petrol in Aus costs circa - 30p in the UK it costs 90p
I am dumbfounded at how unfriendly Europe is to folks with a disability, yet in Aus companies are mandated by law to provide access to folk with disabilties
MRSA - never heard of it in Aus
Doctor? - In Aus I can choose my own .. yet here I am forced to go to the one in my specfic area
Unisex toilets in Australia - all for one, one for all, embracing sexuality
Hollywood stars from such a small society - Nicole Kidman, Russel Crowe, Baz Lurhman etc ..
Brilliant roads and road rules, may seem harsh sometimes but have dramatically decreased road deaths
Marvellous airports, modern and up to date.
Culturally accepting and encourgaing, Melbourne as an example with Lygon Street, Brunswick Street, Smith Street, St Kilda, Caulfield

I could go on for years ... best I stop now ... however ... one more point to James from Aus.

Hey James:

Hoping that your last message was both sarcastic and ignorant.

I have had two roles in Australia that actually had a policy and quota of recruiting indigenous people.

This meant that we were forced to recruit indigenous people over people that were actually skilled to do the job.

In addition, these folk were also paid an additional allowance, over and above our other employees, because they were indigenous.

During this time, I also had to accept that these folk could not be disciplined for non-performance (like our other employees) unless an elder performed the task, and I also had to accept the fact that they would leave work for a few hours a day knowing they could not be reprimanded, and should they choose to leave on their own accord greater welfare benefits.

This left a situation of more pay, less hours, no disciplinary action.

I am far from racist having dated, employed and lived with indigenous folk.

However, whilst our society may be rich ... and perceived as milk and honey.

The Australian government is extremely generous and supportive, to all.

Charlotte

Blimey, I must live in a different 'Australia' than you.

As for my previous comment, yes, it was ignorant of me. These people and these problems actually don't exist. I was just making it all up. Please accept my humble apologies.

What makes me proud to be Australian is the fact that we treat our indigenous people so well. There's nothing like knowing that there is a downtrodden, miserable, dysfunctional, alcohol-soaked group of petrol sniffers who are on the brink of self destruction living in squalid conditions in one of the world's richest countries.

Yep, a fair go for everyone in this land of milk and honey.

25. Posted by cbt (Budding Member 9 posts) 10y

Thanks James for your apology.

Your ignorance is recoginised and accepted.

Hopefully we can now work together.

Thanks
Charlotte

26. Posted by Fern1 (Full Member 53 posts) 10y

[quote James; As for my previous comment, yes, it was ignorant of me. These people and these problems actually don't exist. I was just making it all up. Please accept my humble apologies]

Who's kidding who. Not too long ago Aus. had a 'white policy'.

27. Posted by Isadora (Travel Guru 13926 posts) 10y

Before this thread gets out of hand - remember to play nice or things will be edited or deleted. Just a reminder. :)

28. Posted by james (Travel Guru 4136 posts) 10y

Quoting cbt

Thanks James for your apology.

Your ignorance is recoginised and accepted.

Hopefully we can now work together.

Thanks
Charlotte

Charlotte, I'm happy to "work with you". However, I don't want to distract you from reading about the latest important information filtering out of Hollywood "Has Nic suddenly lost weight? Our new pics reveal all!" nor from chanting "Oi, Oi, Oi" at the next important sporting even that Australia might be playing in.

But when you do have time, I'd love to go out to dinner with you. I know, let's go to Lygon Street and eat some over-priced, rubbish pasta cooked by a European looking person who probably hasn't set foot in Italy for 20 years or more.

Charlotte, you obviously haven't managed to fit into UK society after being there for 2 years. It really shouldn't take that long.

29. Posted by cbt (Budding Member 9 posts) 10y

James,

Thanks for the dinner invitation.

As mentioned I am currently in the UK, and am looking forward to sharing a meal, and of course a debate.

Speak soon
CBT

30. Posted by Jase007 (Travel Guru 8870 posts) 10y

Quoting cbt

Hi,

I consider myself Australian and am extremely proud to be a part of such a country, for the following reasons:

Embracing religion - the last 2 companies I worked for built specific prayer rooms to embrace culture
Cost of Living - Compared to the UK where I spend 70% of my salary on just getting by, in Australia I spend 30%
Integration of cultures - with Sydney and Qld embracing Asia, and Melbourne embracing Europe it is refreshing to live in a society that truly welcomes different cultures. I love the fact that I can get my phone bill in 9 different langauges.
Water quality - higher than any other country
Sporting acheivements - with a country population of circa 21 mil .. we can send over 400 people to the Olympics ... yet with population circa 55 mil plus the UK struggle to send 100
My petrol in Aus costs circa - 30p in the UK it costs 90p
I am dumbfounded at how unfriendly Europe is to folks with a disability, yet in Aus companies are mandated by law to provide access to folk with disabilties
MRSA - never heard of it in Aus
Doctor? - In Aus I can choose my own .. yet here I am forced to go to the one in my specfic area
Unisex toilets in Australia - all for one, one for all, embracing sexuality
Hollywood stars from such a small society - Nicole Kidman, Russel Crowe, Baz Lurhman etc ..
Brilliant roads and road rules, may seem harsh sometimes but have dramatically decreased road deaths
Marvellous airports, modern and up to date.
Culturally accepting and encourgaing, Melbourne as an example with Lygon Street, Brunswick Street, Smith Street, St Kilda, Caulfield

The Australian government is extremely generous and supportive, to all.

Charlotte

Looks like your really happy to be back in the UK
Russel crowe was actually born in NZ.
As for fuel prices in the UK being more, well thats to subsadise the rest of Europe - someone has to pay for a french farmer to sit in his referbished chateau. And everyone who wants to get some benifits for doing nothing.
Intergration of cultures, did you miss london? London is a cultural melting pot like nowhere in the world can match.
As for disabled people access, it has been a legal requirement in the UK to provide access for about 5 years now, and that includes public transport.
Best water quality in the world? going a bit far this one NZ has fantastic stuff in abundance.

I think you might be suffering from rose tinted glasses, the UK isn't the greatest place in the world, but then again neither is Aus. I think both countries are great, having lived in both the UK has the advantage of history and cultre, being easy access to europe, africa and america. Aus has the sun, relaxed pace of life.

[ Edit: Edited at Jun 8, 2006 12:21 AM by Jase007 ]

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