Like you all we're spending about 3 months travelling around South America.
In general, how are most people getting around each country?
I know there are factors such as time and money, but I'm just keen to know how most people are travelling around and for what reason (i.e cost, time) etc.
From what I've read, there is not a good train network but you can buses if you have time. What about flights?
Thanks a bunch,
[ Edit: Edited at Jun 6, 2006 3:23 AM by g_trekkers ]
never flights; that's environmentally irresponsible travel. Busses in SA are excellent; see countless threads here on environmentally responsible travel (mostly by myself and Snatterand)
THIS IS WHAT I TYPED TO YOU IN A PREVIOUS EMAIL ON ANOTHER THREAD.
Your comments didn't really answer my question. But thankyou. L
Thanks for your comments.
I agree about being socially responsible, however we don't have a lot of time in South America and taking buses will eat up too much of our time. I also get severly bus and car sick (unfortunatley).
I don't keep record of the threads in which I posted, sorry about that. I just keep barking of the same ol' tree, until we have all taken our responsability and cut back on flying :-)
If you told me flying from B.A. to Rio or Rio to Quito, etc. was "enviromentally irresponsible" I would ask you who is paying for the flight? You or me? Whose time and money is it?..mine, of course. You have a right to your opinion and may travel in any mode you desire, however you hae no right, via the Internet, to some person you really do not even know well, nor have met face to face to tell them they are "irresponsible". "If I want a lecture I'll go to the university and pay for one." As a guide in Central America for many years I had 'backpacker to billionare' clients and never once lectured my upscale clients except when they violated common sense rules of security, like carrying a lot of cash into crowded markets and so forth. Actually it is and was none of my business.
To the person who needs to fly I know a good consolidator.
As we say in the ex pat bar and restaraunt down on the beach..."politically incorrect to the MAX Dude"
glad to see that you take notice; since I happen to also be involved in politics, I learnt there that the best way to make your point is to just keep making it against all odds. Eventually, there will be people listening :-)
And, even though I really don't care to argue with you about it, have you ever tried the size of your ecological footprint? And have you ever considered the consequences of that? I'm really terribly sorry to invade your own personal space and address your selfishness (well, actually, I am not...), but someone ought to make rich, western-world travellers realise that they should set a good example in altering their consumption patterns, and it may as well be me doing that :-)
so, people, once again (in capitals, just this once, and especially for Dave to hear it):
PLEASE LIMIT YOUR INTERCONTINENTAL FLYING, AND DON'T FLY AT ALL WHERE ALTERNATIVE GROUND TRANSPORTATION IS AVAILABLE.
[ Edit: Edited at Jun 6, 2006 1:44 PM by bentivogli ]
And if you just allow me to rant on for a few more lines, how could you ever say that it is none of your business?? It ís, obviously, and we are letting this planet go to waste if we would all shrug at other people's behaviour like you do. Very sorry, but this kind of crap REALLY pisses me off quite badly.
[ Edit: Edited at Jun 6, 2006 1:29 PM by bentivogli ]
I really feel so bad that you are "pissed off". Oh Oh, I'm crying!!!!!!! When we helped save over 700 lives in Guatemala (and how we did it is none of your business)in 1983-1984 it was not "politics" it was simply saving innocent people from genocide. During the civil wars in El Salvador and Guatemala we acted as Medevac and evacuated many from conflict zones. When I meet people I don't ask them their politics nor do tell people not to "fly",how do Europeans and North Americans supposed to get here, by boat, and what about elderly or infirm people who want to travel in South America they supposed to spend 40-50 hours on the bus. 1. You sound like an ecologoical "facist" ..my way, my way, the right way and a looney left "nazi" (A nazi is really someone who has NO sense of humor)My family years ago were philanthropists here in Central America and funded the Children's Hospital which still stands and bears teh name of my ancestor..so I really don't give a s--- what you you think and I think you are funny. I have nothing to be ashamed of. F--- y----.
you really need all those additional arguments to score a point? hm... :-)
Actually no but am proud of my heritage and accomplishments and I still think you are funny, kiddo. You make me laugh..by the way true politics is compromise and when you give someone travel advice you don't ORDER them in block letters. You are funny. (You better not ever try and ORDER me around!)