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1. Posted by Peter (Admin 5846 posts) 10y

Following on from Niels' thread, I thought I'd ask another environmentally loaded question ;)

If you had the option of upgrading your airfare to an 'eco-ticket', would you consider it?

To be clear, such a ticket would merely offset your carbon emissions by planting an equivalent amount of trees which act as a carbon sink.

Our recent survey suggested that 50% of travellers would either 'travel less' or 'not fly as often' due to environmental concerns. I wonder if those travelers would be more likely to travel if they had an easy option to upgrade tickets to neutralise carbon emissions. I would estimate the extra cost for a RTW flight to be about 100 Euros (maybe a little more).

What do you think? Would you upgrade?

[ Edit: Edited at Jun 7, 2006 7:41 AM by Peter ]

2. Posted by beerman (Respected Member 1631 posts) 10y

Good question....

Being a mad scientist, I'd have to say "it depends". Yeah, I'd probably pay a bit more for the upgrade, but I'd want to know how the program was run, where trees were planted (in already ecologically rich areas or deserts or deforested areas?), what kind of trees were planted, and if the organization in charge really knew what they were doing, i.e., is there a more sensible approach to their method. I have given loads of money over the years to groups that claim to be ecologically minded, only to find out that they spend a large chunk of money on administration (nothing against Admins......).

That's the bitch of being a (hopefully good) ask too damn many questions.

Otherwise, I'm all for reducing emissions dramatically, even if it means I travel less. Though I am working on a solar bicycle-built-for-two.......

3. Posted by tway (Travel Guru 7273 posts) 10y

Would this work like, say, a charitable gift? Would you receive a tax receipt for your "donation" to upgrade? I'm just wondering, as this is often an incentive for people (and companies - especially if they spend a lot on flying) to give.

I honestly don't know if I'd upgrade. I like the idea of it, but 100 Euro is some $150 Canadian - which is a lot of money. It's not that I want to put a price on the environment, but when your budget is limited such a hike can make a big difference on your decisions.

This is like trying to answer the question of whether or not too many people are travelling. On one hand, almost anywhere you go you find crowds - wearing out monuments and landarks at an alarming rate, changing the 'feel' of the city, imposing on other people's space and enjoyment, and causing locals to adapt more and more to travellers' demands. But, then again, there you are - a traveller - in the middle of it all.

4. Posted by bentivogli (Travel Guru 2398 posts) 10y

You probably saw this one coming, but... I'd do both. Minimize flying, that is, and IF it is absolutely necessary (as it sometimes is for my job, or the occasional trip to SA), buy certificates. Does anyone happen to know why these things don't yet exist?

Niels (Amsterdam)

5. Posted by snatterand (Travel Guru 454 posts) 10y

Quoting Peter

To be clear, such a ticket would merely offset your carbon emissions by planting an equivalent amount of trees which act as a carbon sink.

Is this something you've actually heard of or did you just make it up out of nothing?

Just curious. But I would do it. It's a lot of money, but buying organic food makes me feel really good, so paying extra for an eco-ticket would make me feel even better... ;)


6. Posted by Peter (Admin 5846 posts) 10y

Quoting snatterand

Is this something you've actually heard of or did you just make it up out of nothing?

Yeah, there are various carbon offsetting schemes out there. There is an organisation in Australia called Greenfleet that will do this for instance. But there are quite a few options.

I just think airlines could make it a lot easier and have it as a simple upgrade option. I imagine it could be a marketing coup even.

7. Posted by Jase007 (Travel Guru 8870 posts) 10y

Sounds a good idea, how about make airlines actualy pay fuel duty like every other user of non-renewable fuel.
In reality the cost to the price of your rtw ticket would jump by about 45%, as aviation fuel is exempt from fuel duty under an international agreement years ago.
The duty put on fuel would encourage the designers of aircraft, their engines to be more efficient and would also reduce the budget airlines induced weekends away for a £1.
The money generated by the duty should be for the sole benifit of enviromental projects, e.g. replenishing all the forrests that are being cut down at a rate of knots.