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1. Posted by Cosmo P. (Budding Member 4 posts) 10y

I'm a 19 year old military brat who is currently contemplating moving to England. Me and my friend Caitlin have want to see what England has to offer. I was born in Sussex England but have not been back since i was 8. I have fond memories of England. To make a short story short we need help organizing a move to England. What are the best places to live? Keep in mind we are just teenagers. An affluent job circuit would be ideal. I would appreciate all advice.

Respectfully,
Tommy D

2. Posted by t_maia (Travel Guru 3289 posts) 10y

Ok, let me guess: You just had your prom night and after being asked what your plans are after school you boasted that you would move to Europe, right?

Because that is what your plan sounds like. If you had done one thimble full of research before you posted here you would have realised that as US citizens you'll need a work and residence permit if you want to move to any place outside the USA.

I don't know about UK citizen law so I don't know whether your birth in the UK gave you any rights. But I think I'm correct in assuming that your girlfriend is 100% US-American holding no other passport than her own.

As such you can outright forget it about legally finding a job in the UK or anywhere else in Europe. You could come to study at a college or a university here, do volunteer work or an unpaid internship with a company, but anything else is out of the question. There are some visas for highly qualified people like managers, IT specialists, doctors and professors but none of those apply to you.

Of course, nothing stops you from boarding a plane and go to Europe and work illegally cash in hand at BurgerKing and Co., but in the big majority of countries that is a criminal act which can land in jail.

[ Edit: Edited at Jun 16, 2006 8:06 AM by t_maia ]

3. Posted by bentivogli (Travel Guru 2398 posts) 10y

Maia, what a sour post... I like you better when you're cheerful :-)

Fortunately, I do know a bit (if only a REALLY tiny bit) about UK immigration, and as far as I know, one never looses one's British nationality. This means that you can remigrate without much hassle; you probably only have to go through the burocratic mill of getting a social security number. Your girlfriend may have more of a problem, however.

For the details, have a look here:
http://www.ukvisas.gov.uk/servlet/Front?pagename=OpenMarket/Xcelerate/ShowPage&c=Page&cid=1018721067684

It should provide whatever information needed. Concerning job opportunities, I hope that a UK national will be able to answer that question.

Good luck,
Niels (Amsterdam)

[ Edit: Edited at Jun 16, 2006 8:53 AM by bentivogli ]

4. Posted by t_maia (Travel Guru 3289 posts) 10y

But bentivogli, the question is: Did cosmo acquire UK citizenship by being born in the UK to US parents who were there as part of the NATO forces?

That is something I'm clueless about. Feel free to educate me. :-)

The link you posted is not applyable, because Cosmo is not a descendant of a UK citizen (at least xe hasn't written anything to indicate this).

As for making a sour post - that is just 1) my annoyance at the US education system and 2) having spent the whole day listening to one of my teachers.

1) When I was a teenager I did plenty of stupid things, but I never was that naive to believe that I could simply move to another country and get a job there without jumping through some hoops. (There was a reason I threw a party when I read the info on the European Union in the early 90's and the fact that I could now in theory get a job anywhere in Europe.)

2)If you had a former army officer and now full time immigrations and social services public servant lecturing you in boot camp style for 8 hours on how to properly deal with illegal immigrants once you graduated, you would be pissed at this post too!

5. Posted by bentivogli (Travel Guru 2398 posts) 10y

Oops... I see. I misread his post, thinking that he was of UK descendance. Still, as far as I remember my classes on international private law (dating back to the mid 90ties, didn't do anything with it since), the UK works with a territorial principle that at least grants you the right to UK citizenship if you're born there, irrespective of your ancestry. But I wouldn't DARE to educate you in your own field, and NATO personnel may well be an exception anyway. :-)

Niels

[ Edit: Edited at Jun 16, 2006 10:02 AM by bentivogli ]

6. Posted by Jase007 (Travel Guru 8870 posts) 10y

As far as I know, and there is talk about changing the nationality rules.
But as they stand now if you were born in the UK, you are entitled to a british passport. However, if it was on a US base, this may not apply.
As for working visas, they change the criteria every couple of years at the moment. I think it's still on 2years working once you take in £2.5k, and have a trade.

7. Posted by Cosmo P. (Budding Member 4 posts) 10y

Well i'm actually not going with my girlfriend as i stated previously i am giong with a friend, and contrary to your belief this idea didn't strike me after prom. I was born off of US soil i was born in Basingstoke. I completely understand that there are some loops to go through, and i posted this som maybe some people can help me with the process instead of criticizing the motive for my plan or the plan in general. I welcome all help and tips. Any other questions feel free to ask.

Respectfully,
Tommy D

8. Posted by traveler1 (Full Member 190 posts) 10y

I don't have much knowledge but I believe there is a work-holiday visa for the UK for up to 2 yrs for people below 28 yrs..u might want to check that out.. google work-holiday visa + uk

9. Posted by traveler1 (Full Member 190 posts) 10y

sorry .. i think the scheme is valid only for commonwealth citizens

10. Posted by Cosmo P. (Budding Member 4 posts) 10y

thanks