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11. Posted by grasshoppa (Full Member 202 posts) 10y

Quoting Sander

North of Auckland in New Zealand is great, weather wise. They call it the winterless north. (So expect average temperatures of 10-15 degrees during the day during winter (but with the possibility of some chillier days every so often), and 25-30 during the summer.) Lots of dolphins near the Bay of Islands, too..

10-15 degrees... doesnt sound like the winterless north to me

12. Posted by Kicka (Budding Member 17 posts) 10y

Hej Sussana! Var bor du nagonstans? Yes, I know this place is great, but like I said- not a place where I want my child to grow up. I'm still able to live a more "nature" lifestyle here, but most people love to come here and just party. They start doind Cocain in schools here when kids are 11!!! Plus, it's getting more and more crowded by the day. I want my son to feel safe and be able to run around outdoors. Also, we would really like to start an eco-resort or join a eco-communtity. I like to be close to a cute area with some reastuarants, but I also like peace and quiet... As far as spirituality goes, this place is waaaaaay not there. To be honest, unless it's Hawaii, I don't want my child to grow up in the US.

:):):)

13. Posted by snatterand (Travel Guru 454 posts) 10y

Quoting grasshoppa

10-15 degrees... doesnt sound like the winterless north to me

No, it sounds like Swedish summer. Haha!

14. Posted by snatterand (Travel Guru 454 posts) 10y

Quoting Kicka

I want my son to feel safe and be able to run around outdoors. Also, we would really like to start an eco-resort or join a eco-communtity. I like to be close to a cute area with some reastuarants, but I also like peace and quiet... As far as spirituality goes, this place is waaaaaay not there. To be honest, unless it's Hawaii, I don't want my child to grow up in the US.

:):):)

I can see what you are getting at. Well, as I said, I think that if you guys are brave and enthusiastic, Uruguay is the place to go. It would be perfect to start an eco-resort there, although I don't think there is as much of that sort of stuff going on there currently as it is in Ecuador. I have no idea what it would be like to raise a child there though, and you would have to learn Spanish.
The easy, and maybe even better, option would be New Zealand. Although not as hot as Florida (I assume) the areas north of Auckland are wonderfully nice and warm even in the so called "winter" - especially for someone who is used to the Swedish climate!!! ;)
I just went on short trips up to Northland while living in Auckland, but I met several people who came to NZ to start with organic farming or move into eco-communities. When it comes to nature and outdoor activities, NZ is THE PLACE - I can tell you. Also, in terms of being environmentally conscious, it's a good country to live in. The kiwis are quite aware of what natural resources is all about. I am myself very interested in everything with the prefix "eco" (I did my 4th year of environmental engineering studies at University of Auckland). And don't worry about the climate. I mean the winters on the South Island are quite cold, but it's a totally different story up in the north. And the good thing about it is that even though you'll live surrounded by palmtrees, the downhill skiing isn't too far away!!!

//Susanna

15. Posted by Kicka (Budding Member 17 posts) 10y

North NZ sounds nice! I do love warmer climates and I moved away from Sweden 10 years ago for a reason... he he... What kind of climate is the north NZ temperature wize? Any place in particular in the north that's nice? Dolphins around?

I already speak Spanish (Lived in Spain for a while), so that means we could explore S. America. There is an island outside Brazil called Florianapolis that we got to check out too (I wouldn't mind learning puertogese...), but comming from Sweden, the one thing that annoys me sooooo much here in Miami with the latinos is that they are never ever on time! I love them, great, funny people, but business wize, it's a nightmare! NZ also seams more "clean"...

We just checked into an eco-village in Australia on the gold coast in a town called Currumbin: http://www.theecovillage.com.au/
Sounds AWESOME ... but how bad is the spider situation really? I heard from people that they clean out large, very large, spiders from their house daily!!! Funnel spiders - the most deadly- attack agressive proactivly! I mean, for someone with a fobia, that sounds like living in constant paranoia... he he...

Tack for all info! Hur lange har du bott i NZ? Vill du stanna dar? Hur ar det for en Svensk att fa uppehallstillstand?

:):):)

16. Posted by mat44 (Full Member 58 posts) 10y

The spider situation in aus is really not to bad... trust me. You will find one every so often here and there but you could get your place flicked.

17. Posted by mat44 (Full Member 58 posts) 10y

The Gold Coast is about halfway up Australia so it has a similar climate to Florida and has lots and lots of palm trees

18. Posted by Sander (Moderator 4809 posts) 10y

Quoting Kicka

North NZ sounds nice! I do love warmer climates and I moved away from Sweden 10 years ago for a reason... he he... What kind of climate is the north NZ temperature wize? Any place in particular in the north that's nice? Dolphins around?

Dolphins are most easily seen around the Bay of Islands, I think, although I suspect you might see them anywhere along the east coast of Northland. (Worth mentioning: lots of organized "swimming with the dolphins" tours in the Bay of Islands; I don't know if that'd put you off or not; it doesn't put the dolphins off though, and kiwis do know to treat them with respect (they'll never allow people to go swimming if the dolphins have a young with them, for example))
The towns around the Bay of Islands are Paihia (pop: ~7000), Kerikeri (pop ~4000) and Russell (pop ~1000). I haven't been to Kerikeri, but my Lonely Planet describes it as provincial. Paihia is way too touristy for what I suspect your tastes are. Lots and lots of tour operators to greet the hordes of tourists coming through. Russell is just a ferry-ride across the bay from Paihia, so gets its fair share of tourists wandering over, but is much quieter and nicer otherwise (while still not being completely provincial, or at least that's the sense I got of it; quite a few artists around, too). A really nice beach with (presumably?) decent swimming ~10 minutes walk away from the Russell wharf is Longbeach.

Here's a Google Map of the area, that might make it easier to visualize. (There's good satellite coverage there, so you can zoom in all the way.)

The only city worthy of the name in northland is Whangarei, quite a bit (1 hour by car??) further south; everything else is towns about the size of Kerikeri. Some might be decent as well, but I expect the majority to be provincial. A local would be able to better inform you on that though.

The climate is good; warm and sunny very often, although as everywhere in New Zealand, this can change very rapidly with some pretty heavy rains drifting in from the ocean. During the summer, the Bay of Islands is one of the main vacationing destinations for kiwis, mostly because of the sunshine, 30+ degree temperature, beaches and water activities.

19. Posted by ikey (Full Member 172 posts) 10y

Quoting Kicka

We just checked into an eco-village in Australia on the gold coast in a town called Currumbin: http://www.theecovillage.com.au/
Sounds AWESOME ... but how bad is the spider situation really? I heard from people that they clean out large, very large, spiders from their house daily!!! Funnel spiders - the most deadly- attack agressive proactivly! I mean, for someone with a fobia, that sounds like living in constant paranoia... he he...

Tack for all info! Hur lange har du bott i NZ? Vill du stanna dar? Hur ar det for en Svensk att fa uppehallstillstand?

:):):)

Hi Kicka, as I said earlier the spiders in Aus are not that bad, it's one of those stereotypes that a lot of people like to play up on (like kangaroos jump down the main roads in the city). Having said that I have never lived in Currumbin, but I have spent many a holiday on the Gold Coast and never seen spiders in my hotel room.

Some interesting info I found on the web (pardon the pun) that may help you: http://www.amonline.net.au/spiders/resources/general.htm#control
"There have been no deaths in Australia from a confirmed spider bite since 1979. An effective antivenom for Redback Spiders was introduced in 1956, and one for funnel-web spiders in 1980. These are the only two spiders that have caused deaths in Australia in the past.

So you have about a 0% chance of being killed by a spider down under but you may see the odd one, don't forget New Zealand also has spiders as does any/every? country, if you are looking for a warm/tropical climate I would think it would be impossible to avoid spiders entirely.

20. Posted by ikey (Full Member 172 posts) 10y

Also, I think about 99% of people in Australia have a spider phobia, I don't know anyone that actually likes them, I hate them, my mum hates them, all my friends hate them, if it was so bad we wouldn't all be living here happily.