i have absolutely no problem with people comming to australia to have babies in order to obtain citizenship. If the system has loop holes then people should use them, tht is what they are for. besides Australia`s social system is hardly that lucrative, anyone who goes to australia looking for a free ride will be dissappointed when they discover what centrelink pays compared to the cost of living. and on most issues in australia i don`t care too much, i dont think i would live in australia for longer than 6 months again. i would live in New Zealand befor i moved back to australia for good, apparently their government doesnt give too many hand-outs either but i have always been pretty good at providing for myself so it doesn`t bother me. Does it bother u if people come to australia to have kids and gain citizenship?