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1. Posted by bbujol05 (Budding Member 14 posts) 10y

I live in Dallas,Texas and I have THE MOST difficult time finding anything in regard to having dual citizenship or becoming an expat. It seems as though every country is pretty willing to accept immigration but not emigration I'm not looking to slander my native country; I just want to know that IF I decide to become a citizen of another country, that the info is out there...

2. Posted by Jase007 (Travel Guru 8870 posts) 10y

once you give up you nationality your new country will take precedence. I'm not sure on this, but i presume that you ought to hand in your passport. send a e-mail to the forign office to check it out.

3. Posted by mikeyBoab (Travel Guru 5077 posts) 10y

Where are you wanting to move to?

4. Posted by Gelli (Travel Guru 2457 posts) 10y

In VERY few cases are you actually allowed to just decide to become a citizen of another country.

You have to qualify through residency etc; occassionally a country will offer you citizenship (very rare); if you have ancestry you can prove; or if you apply for assylum it can happen. However, you will have to prove and give an extremely good reason why you are giving up your existing citizenship, and convince them that they should take you. Which is very hard.

Becoming an expat is easy though. And emmigration is just as easy. These days, very few countries forbid their citizens to move abroad. You just move to another country!

[ Edit: Edited at Jul 12, 2006 10:02 AM by Gelli ]

5. Posted by bbujol05 (Budding Member 14 posts) 10y

mikeyBoab, I have so many places I would love to live in (I swear I wish I could be a nomad!) but primarily I'm looking at Florinopolis, Brazil, or Chile; I was considering the Mediterannean but I'd lose money switching from the USD to the Euro (lol)

6. Posted by bbujol05 (Budding Member 14 posts) 10y

So, Gelli I can work and take up residency without officially becoming a citizen? I read in some various places about working visas and whatnot but I was unable to find anything on dual citizenship, or permanent residency; I looked up articles on Chile, Turkey, Italy, Brazil, France, and Sweden...maybe I just have bad resources

7. Posted by Pardus (Respected Member 2356 posts) 10y

The situation in Ireland for Non-Eu citizens is that you need to apply for a work visa in order to get work, but you can enter the country on a tourist visa for up to 3 months, but you can extend the visa.
To become Irish citizen you have to have worked and had residency in Ireland for at least 5 years and then you have to convince the Home Secretary about your intent to stay in Ireland for a long time.
And as far as I know all other countries in Europe are similar. There's options with marriage, but that requires a certain amount of time as well...

So, getting a new citizenship is not easy and requires a lot of time and commitment and would certainly not suit a nomad lifestyle.

8. Posted by Gelli (Travel Guru 2457 posts) 10y

So, Gelli I can work and take up residency without officially becoming a citizen?

Yes. And in 99% of all countries, that is your ONLY option. To repeat, you CANNOT just choose to become a citizen of somewhere else.

I looked up articles on Chile, Turkey, Italy, Brazil, France, and Sweden...maybe I just have bad resources

Perhaps you are just searching for the wrong things? All of the above are easy to find information on, and in all cases you can get a work visa/permit and go and move there with relative ease, whilst in None of them will offer you citizenship with you just asking.

With reagrd to getting a work visa, in many countries, especially if you are over a certain age (varies) to qualify for a work permit or to be allowed residency, you need to already have a job lined up. Where you don't, you can often visit that country as a tourist and get a job whilst you are there, but you generally then have to leave the country again and apply for the correct visa before you are allowed to re-enter.

9. Posted by Isadora (Travel Guru 13926 posts) 10y

Something else to keep in mind...

With dual citizenship, and while living in the secondary country, one or both of you could be called upon to serve in the secondary country's military. Whether either (or both) of you have served and been honorably discharged from the US Military will not exclude you from serving again in another country where you have citizenship.

Also, fewer and fewer countries are offering dual citizenship. Depending on the country, you may be required to renounce your US citizenship. I would think very long and hard before even considering such a measure. The US rarely reinstates a citizenship even to those who are native born.

10. Posted by flo jo (Respected Member 414 posts) 10y

I always been an expat, at least since I was 18 years old, it is not an easy thing to do. You are always starting a new life and people will always considered you as a foreigner. You need a good, recognized university diploma and experience in your field. So the company which employs you, can have good reasons to choose you over a local.

Do NEVER expatriate yourself without visiting the country before to make sure it suit you.

Flo