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1. Posted by Mr.Asmera (Budding Member, 5 posts) 18 Jul '06 19:27

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Hi, my wife and I are novice travellers and will be in Europe for 3 1/2 months. We have budgeted (time-wise) aproximately 21 days in Italy. We'll be arriving through Germany/Switzerland and exiting to Greece.

Tentatively, I'm thinking of the following:

Venice (one or two days)
Verona?
Bologna?
Florence (two or three days)
Pisa (maybe)
Siena (two days)
Cinque Terre
Rome (four or five days)
Naples?

other places of interest: Pompeii, Urbino, Parma, Palermo, Sorrento.

We will be travelling by train and possibly cheap airlines. We intend to be in Italy from about September 15 to October 6. We would like to see a mix of the main sites and of smaller "off the beaten track places." For some reason I'm nervous about renting a car, but might try it if I work up the courage. We will be staying in budget accomodation such as hostels.

Is my order of cities efficient? Should I remove some of the areas and add others? Any advcie is appreciated.

p.s. we're leaving for Europe in a week, so quick advice is appreciated.

2. Posted by grasshoppa (Full Member, 202 posts) 18 Jul '06 20:00

that looks alright to me. I highgly recommend Rome and Venice

3. Posted by lugosi (Budding Member, 28 posts) 18 Jul '06 23:04

Dear Mr.Asmera,
your travel plan seems rather hard, and thus I recommend you to get a good rest in Rimini or some other place on the Adriatic coast. In case you decide to stay there for more than one day, a bus trip to San Marino is a must. :)

And yes, Cinque Terre is definitely worth visiting! It is the most beautiful place in the world, I dare say!

4. Posted by grace (Budding Member, 6 posts) 19 Jul '06 00:02

Hello

these are my suggestions:

2 days in Venice, 1-2 days in Verona; get a car and drive throughout the whole of Tuscany, spending one day or less in each relevant town; 3 days in Florence, but it depends on your interest in the Renassence art and museums.Check a web site concerning tuscany to realyze how beautiful the region is.3 days in Rome could be enough, but...let yourself the chance to change idea.

Naples is a special and different place, which could give you wonderful experiences. BUT not driving, and visiting the place with somebody who lives there; a guide is not important, just some body who can give you the main tips and to help you to understand thepeculiar culture of the people.A 2 days trip to Pompei and the amalfitan coast should be a must.
You didn't include Sicily or Sardinia; I suggest you to visit some specific web site and to include them. In Sardinia is wonderful to drive along the coast and in the inner country; also in Sicily I would suggest you the same choice, cause the public transports, despite the wonderful places, could give you some relevant limits and delay. On my view a special 3-4 days trip across each of them would be wonderful.
The period to spend in Italy is not anymore high season, no problem in finding place, but hostels are always very busy. Check the travellerspoint hostels list and also hostelsclub.com and hostelworld.com

Best regards

Grazia

5. Posted by amanecer (Respected Member, 203 posts) 19 Jul '06 03:48

Quoting Mr.Asmera

Hi, my wife and I are novice travellers and will be in Europe for 3 1/2 months. We have budgeted (time-wise) aproximately 21 days in Italy. We'll be arriving through Germany/Switzerland and exiting to Greece.

Tentatively, I'm thinking of the following:

Venice (one or two days)
Verona?
Bologna?
Florence (two or three days)
Pisa (maybe)
Siena (two days)
Cinque Terre
Rome (four or five days)
Naples?

other places of interest: Pompeii, Urbino, Parma, Palermo, Sorrento.

We will be travelling by train and possibly cheap airlines. We intend to be in Italy from about September 15 to October 6. We would like to see a mix of the main sites and of smaller "off the beaten track places." For some reason I'm nervous about renting a car, but might try it if I work up the courage. We will be staying in budget accomodation such as hostels.

Is my order of cities efficient? Should I remove some of the areas and add others? Any advcie is appreciated.

hy!september is one of the best season to visit Italy. It's still hot to have a bath, but not too much to getting desperate during the visit of the main cities (Florence, Siena, Rome are VERY hot during summer. )

venezia 2 days
verona 1day
bologna-maybe
parma-maybe not- I'd rather prefer the beautiful Ravenna, rich of Bizantine churches and mosaics.Here you have some pictures of the city:
http://www.turismo.ra.it/visita/visita_virtuale.htm
florence- 3 days , including pisa and proceeding to 5 terre (1/2 days)
siena- 1 day is enough, but worth a visit
tuscanian landscape 3/4 days: you can find very famous towns, such as S. gimignano or Pienza, and undiscovered villages. definitely worth a visit, if you're looking for something "out of beaten tracks", but you need a car to move around. don't be afraid because driving in Italy is safe, if you avoid big cities.
in my photo gallery I've many pictures of tuscanian landscape and rome (see my profile)
rome 4-5 days is ok
naples: follow Grace's suggestions; 1 day or 2 (maybe a day trip from rome, 1hours half/ 2 hours by train), or 2 days including Pompei or paestum visit.
Sicily: low cost flight from Rome: check airone and windjet (better to reserve in advance to find a good offer)
or ryanair pisa-trapani. Sicily is very big,in 3 days you're not going to see very much. Maybe better to visit Sorrento, Amalfi which are closer to Naples and rome.
Urbino is beautiful, but it's located close to Adriatic coast, and it's quite hard to reach by public transports. I don't think that worth a diversion from your route only to see Urbino.
Rimini, excluding 1 square in the old centre, doesn't worth a visit at all, unless you like discos. The sea is not so clean.
If you want to reach Greek you could choose to visit Puglia region instead of Sicily, and take a boat from there to greek islands. Puglia is rich of beatiful ancient cities and towns (search Alberobello , lecce, Trani, ...)and the southest part (Salento) is very famous for its beautiful sea.september is low season, you'll probably find many offers for accommodation.from rome to bari: low cost airflight: airone http://www.flyairone.it/en/
Puglia Region:http://www.pugliaturismo.com/Inglese/default.asp
have a nice vacation!

6. Posted by Lokaxu (Budding Member, 3 posts) 19 Jul '06 05:49

Hello!
I went to Italy in september 2005 by car with my husband, it's a good time to go,isn't hight season and the weather is good.
A car: no problem - be carefull in Rome and Naples(stop your car at car parking ou left it in a hostel)
Venice: 2 days - walking in their streets - wonderfull - gondolas isn't cheap, but if you stay in Venice......
Verona - you can look quickly Julieta's house
Florença - 2 days, but if you loving renassence 3 days or more
Pisa - if in your way..... only look
Siena - 2 days
Cinque Terre - wonderful - 2 days or more
Amalfi Coast - wonderfull too - 2 days - go to Sorrento and take "vaporetto" to CAPRI- beautifull place
Naples - go to Pompei - interesting place and if you like adventure and sports go to vulcan in Herculano (near Pompei)
Rome - 5 days - historical and wonderfull place

enjoy yourself
bye!

7. Posted by Mr.Asmera (Budding Member, 5 posts) 20 Jul '06 07:19

Thank you all for your great advice.

What is the driving like? I'm from a relatively small city so I haven't driven much on large highways or in large cities. Driving is on the right side of the road? Do most people drive automatic or standard transmissions?

I am an architecture student and Brunelleschi is one of my favourites, so that is why I'd like to spend at least two and most likely three days in Florence. I am very interested in experiencing a wide variety of architecture from Roman times, to Renaissance, Baroque, and Palladian. I would like to see Villa Capra (Villa Rotunda) by Palladio. Is it worth it to go to Vicenza just to see that?

Is Palermo nice?

What is the weather like in Northern and Central Italy during this time?

Thanks again.

8. Posted by t_maia (Moderator, 3291 posts) 20 Jul '06 15:59

Italians are some of the worst drivers in Europe. Before they start the engine, they are rumored to kiss the cross and send a prayer to Santa Maria. Mad dashes across red lights, speeding, changing lanes apruptly without warning, narrow and winding roads, a lot of one-way lanes. Standard transmissions are used and driving is on the right side of the road.

I would always use the train in Italy and I don't say that because I don't have a license. My one time as a car passenger in Italy has cured me of any desire to drive a car there.

[ Edit: Edited at Jul 20, 2006 4:00 PM by t_maia ]

9. Posted by Mr.Asmera (Budding Member, 5 posts) 22 Jul '06 20:13

Please let me know what you think of this itinerary.

Arriving from Germany (Munich):

Venice (2 days)
Vicenza (1 day) [would love to see work by Palladio, especially Villa Rotunda]
Verona (1 day)
Ravenna (1 day) [would love to see San Vitale]
Florence (3 days) [want to see renaissance architecture, especially that of Brunelleschi; 3 days possibly includes day trip to Pisa]
Cinque Terre (2 days)
Siena (1 day, possibly 2)
Rome/Vatican City (4 days, possibly 5)
Naples (1 day)
Sorrento/Amalfi Coast/Capri/Pompeii (3 days)
Puglia Region (2 days)
To Greece
TOTAL: 21-23 days in Italy.

Both my wife and myself are not really all that interested in night life and will probably not go to any discos at all; we're both 27 years old. I don't drink any alcohol, but my wife loves wine. I'm an architecture student and am very excited to see the architecture and art of the Romans and of Renaissance and Baroque (especially Brunelleschi, Michaelangelo, and Palladio). We are generally interested in a slower pace. Also, we're travelling on a budget. Should we purchase a month long Italy rail pass?

I'm definitely going to Vicenza; is it worth it to go to Verona? Is it a mistake to miss Milan? Where exactly is Pompeii? Is it south of the Amalfi Coast?

One final question; where should I go in the Puglia region? Initial research shows it to be a nice area.

Thanks in advance for all your comments.
Jeremiah

10. Posted by amanecer (Respected Member, 203 posts) 27 Jul '06 10:17

Quoting Mr.Asmera

Please let me know what you think of this itinerary.

Arriving from Germany (Munich):

Venice (2 days)
Vicenza (1 day) [would love to see work by Palladio, especially Villa Rotunda]
Verona (1 day)
Ravenna (1 day) [would love to see San Vitale]
Florence (3 days) [want to see renaissance architecture, especially that of Brunelleschi; 3 days possibly includes day trip to Pisa]
Cinque Terre (2 days)
Siena (1 day, possibly 2)
Rome/Vatican City (4 days, possibly 5)
Naples (1 day)
Sorrento/Amalfi Coast/Capri/Pompeii (3 days)
Puglia Region (2 days)
To Greece
TOTAL: 21-23 days in Italy.

Both my wife and myself are not really all that interested in night life and will probably not go to any discos at all; we're both 27 years old. I don't drink any alcohol, but my wife loves wine. I'm an architecture student and am very excited to see the architecture and art of the Romans and of Renaissance and Baroque (especially Brunelleschi, Michaelangelo, and Palladio). We are generally interested in a slower pace. Also, we're travelling on a budget. Should we purchase a month long Italy rail pass?

I'm definitely going to Vicenza; is it worth it to go to Verona? Is it a mistake to miss Milan? Where exactly is Pompeii? Is it south of the Amalfi Coast?

One final question; where should I go in the Puglia region? Initial research shows it to be a nice area.

Thanks in advance for all your comments.
Jeremiah

in puglia region:lecce is the capital of baroque, you can read some general information about the region here:
http://www.pugliaturismo.com/aptlecce/default_e.htm

in tuscanian landscape don't miss Pienza, in Valdorcia, the reinassance ideal city:
http://www.terresiena.it/page.asp?cat=home&par=static_terre_orcia_ideale&id_codicearea=&lang=en

you 're noy going to miss anything if you skip milan

I partially agree with maia about italian 's way of driving. If you're not used to drive a lot AVOID TO DRIVE IN BIG CITIES. aNY PROBLEM IN THE COUNTRYSIDE.

POMPEI IS 46 KM FAR FROM AMALFI, NORTHERN.
CLOSE TO AMALFI DON't MISS THE FOLLOWING TOWNS: pOSITANO, rAVELLO, mAIORI, MINORI.

verona: something about the city:
http://www.veronafortificata.it/index.php?option=com_content&task=section&id=18&Itemid=63&lang=eng

http://www.chieseverona.it/home.aspx

http://www.veronatuttintorno.it/eng/index.php

if you're interested in architecture, possibly you could find curios in ROME a quarter called Coppedè. (contemporary architecture) with its particular buildings. Here you have some pictures:
http://freeweb.supereva.com/elisabettafabrizio/biblio/saggi/neomedio/coppede/index.htm?p
http://www.giovannirinaldi.it/page/rome/coppede/
and an article:
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9B0DE3DF1231F931A3575BC0A961948260&sec=travel&pagewanted=print