Hi there, this is my first post and as such it may be redundant.
I would like to plan a trip from Thailand to Europe, by car. Is there a way, and how? Which Countries can I enter and exit and where? I know I probably can't go west of Burma, maybe not even in Burma. If I head north, can I enter China? Once there, can I exit anywhere?
I would have tons of questions, and I don't need to have all the answers (certainly not now); I would like to know for now if that's possible.
Wow matcube, this is definitely among the most ambitious trips I've ever hear of. How's the planning going so far?
There is a way...but only hardy four wheel drives...Malaysian off roaders have done it....from Kuala Lumpur, through Laos into China (via Kumming), Mongolia, Siberia, Europe (to Paris)...but these trips are always well planned (lots of bureaucracy). Off roaders go as convoy...So if you wish, you have to be in a convoy.
Way back in 2000, we (the Malaysian Land Rover Club) wanted to do the "Netaji Trail" from Kuala Lumpur to India via Myanmar but the plans evaporated due to extreme bureaucracy & demands on the Myanmar side. So the following year, we did the Kuala Lumpur-Kumming trip...you can proceed from here to Beijing, Guilin,etc.
Last year, another group of off roaders from Malaysia did the London-Kuala Lumpur expedition...Due to commitments I didnt join them...Maybe you would want to contact them? Send me a PM if you are keen!
Thanks Danalasta for your input. After China, I was interested in the .stan ex-URSS provinces, like Kyrgyzstan, Kazakhstan, etc... Does anybody know if they can be entered from China (and then exited to Russia)? Also, I want to go on "regular" road. I mean, I don't expect a highway, but I would like to drive with a more or less normal minivan/SUV.
Michael: very early stage still. We have to convince our wifes first and have to discover if the trip is all together possible.
I do not know anybody that has done this by car, but I did meet two guys that rode from England to Cambodia on off road motorcycles. Met them in Sihanoukville. Quite an adventure, that is for sure.
There is a lot of paper work to bring an auto into another country. You really need to start contacting the countries you plan on traveling through and find out what you need to do to drive your car in their country. Do your homework and let us know if it is feasible.
Thanks guys, I think I'll give it up for now, it appears it takes a lot of time for the planning of it, I mean more than I can afford at the moment. I am going to change the scope of the trip, but for that I will start a different thread or else this would be out of topic.
Just for anybody else reading this: The traditional route is via India, Pakistan, Iran, Turkey, Greece and the Balkan countries. This is still the most feasible route, as dealing with -stan and Chinese bureaucracy is a nightmare. People take the train if they go China-Kazakhstan and apparently this is uncomplicated if you have the right visa.
Information whether you can drive your own car in China as a foreigner is conflicting, I heard that it was forbidden. But one website (http://www.silkroadcn.com/) mentiones being able to arrange the China-part such a long distance trip by car, so the laws might have changed now.
This trip is definitely possible!
We intend to drive Singapore to Europe starting next May.
We will be using 4WD vehicles and are currently at the planning stage, having already met with people from two other groups who have done similar journeys in recent years.Why dont you join us with your own vehicle??
Thanks, I can't join next May. I have a couple of months to spare October-November this year but that's not the right season and not enough time for planning.