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1. Posted by Tina Bean (Budding Member 48 posts) 10y

Hey,

Planning on starting a RTW trip in November visiting SE Asia for roughly 3 months, OZ about the same length of time, NZ, Fiji and Cook Islands for a few weeks each then back home via USA. Please can someone tell me if i will need Yellow Fever as i have read that sometimes the certificate is required for entry into some of SE Asia. I have had tet, Polio, Dip and Typh booster, planning on Hep A & B jabs and Rabies but unsure if i need the YF.

Please help!

Thanks,

Tina

2. Posted by Isadora (Travel Guru 13926 posts) 10y

Hey Tina!

Here are the CDC recommendations for Southeast Asia and vaccinations. Yellow Fever is not even listed. You definitely will not need it for OZ/NZ and Pacific countries.

Southeast Asia

What the CDC site says about YF certificates is:

There is no risk for yellow fever in Southeast Asia. A certificate of yellow fever vaccination may be required for entry into certain of these countries if you are coming from countries in South America or sub-Saharan Africa.

You will be entering Southeast Asia from the US. It should not pose any problems for you.

I would think about the rabies too. It ultimately depends on the type of travel you will be doing and where you will be visiting. If most of your trip will be spent in remote/rural areas or you will be working with wildlife - then it is recommended. If not, then try to avoid petting skunks, monkeys and bats. Rabies immunization is a series of 3 injections over 3 weeks. This pre-exposure immunization does not prevent you from being infected, it only reduces the number of post-exposure injections you will receive (from 7 to 4). It will also give you an extra day or so to find medical treament.

Typhiod immunization works in a similar way. It does not prevent the disease but boosts your immunity to it and reduces the severity if you are exposed. The vaccine is about 50-80% effective. I definitely recommend it just because of the reduction in the severity if you develop the disease.

3. Posted by lost again (Budding Member 66 posts) 10y

A Dr. quoted $600 US dollars to get a rabbies vacination - you better be sure you need it if you are going to get it!

4. Posted by Zoom (Full Member 131 posts) 10y

Tina, Please take responsibility for your own health and do a lot more research on this topic (you have a computer and internet access right? right - then start googling) I've traveled for decades to about 80 coutries all over the world and have not had ANY vaccinations what so ever. The Yellow Fever thing is a joke and the only time I've EVER had to deal with that is going to Brazil coming from Peru. I got a Dr. to write me up a certificate in Lima and that was it (no shot). The immigration people at Rio's Airport had a slight problem with the certificate since the Dr. in Peru was a Gynocologist (he was a friend's Father) and I'm a male. After a 5 minute discussion they let me move on. A lot of vaccinations don't work that well or you can avoid the problem by being careful about food and drink. If you're gonna eat food from a street vendor in one of the poorest countries in the world then that's just stupid, careless behaviour. If you're gonna pet stray wild dogs roaming around that's not smart either. I would recommend Tetenus and one or 2 others and that's it. Malaria tablets (especially in parts of Africa I would definitely go for but would really watch it with LARIUM (sp?) - make sure to read A LOT about it first. You don't need to fill your body up with all that poison. Unless you plan to spend a lot of time away from the cities (like people wno work in the Peace Corp) then a lot of that stuff is pointless. Please do your research and don't believe EVERYTHING the drug companies tell you (they're in business you see, want to make as much money as possible) Zoom PS. I just saw "Lost Agains" comment. $600 for a rabies vac. !!! That's EXACTLY what I mean, the drug companies are the biggest crooks in the world (especially in the USA where they are unregulated and charge GIGANTIC rip off prices) Don't be naive and DO YOUR RESEARCH !!! ADDED: I just checked out your info. I see you do Yoga so are at least a bit into the natural way of approaching things. As I said before, a few different shots are a good idea but there's a lot of junk in those shots and you don't need that in your body. Do the research and only get what you need FOR SURE. Looks like you already have had more than enough. Have a nice trip. Zoom

[ Edit: Edited at Aug 9, 2006 10:39 PM by Zoom ]

5. Posted by Tina Bean (Budding Member 48 posts) 10y

Hey,

Thanks so much for your responses. I have spoken to quite a few people and they have laughed when i said that my GP said about Yello Fever but also got worried when i looked on the internet and many sites told me that i may need a certificate to gain entry to some of SE Asia. As i'm coming from London, i don't think i'm a risk!!

I'm not planning on getting too close to the animals or being in remote areas for long periods of time so will have to think about the rabies. I have been quoted £42 for it and $8 for the yellow fever. Deffo think i'll steer clear of the yellow fever!

Have a friend who is a pharmacist (a down to earth one) and i'll get some advice from her about the Anti-malarials.

Thanks again

T

6. Posted by Isadora (Travel Guru 13926 posts) 10y

Quoting Isadora

You will be entering Southeast Asia from the US. It should not pose any problems for you.

My apologies for making the mistake about "entering from the US" as you will be entering from the UK. I realized my mistake shortly after posting and forgot to correct myself.

Zoom has some good points. But, I would definitely go for the Hep A&B, Typhoid and whatever boosters you feel appropriate. I thoroughly agree with doing your research before receiving any vaccinations so you are fully informed of the side effects and the level of immunity they provide.

Hep A - this disease can be contracted through foods and unclean tableware. You don't need to eat at a dodgy street vendor's cart to be infected. Most cases of hep A are transmitted through the use of contaminated silverware when the dishwashing systems are not adequately maintained. People contract the disease while dining in even the best restaurants.

Hep B - this disease is transmitted through blood and bodily fluids. Not everyone's blood supply is as "clean" as available in Europe or the US. No one wants to be injured or require medical attention while traveling, but it doesn't always work that way. On this, I still say error on the side of caution.

Typhoid - again, a disease that is transmitted through food and bodily fluid contact. As an example - we do have a TP member who contracted typhoid by eating eggs while touring S. America. She was very happy she had received the vaccinations prior to her trip. I also know this member to be a very cautious traveler and quite careful about where and what she would eat. Granted, it was S. America - but SE Asia also has the possibilities for infection.

As I stated in my first post - rabies and yellow fever vaccinations are not really warranted. Do not base your decisions on the drug companies but on your chances of infection in the areas you will be traveling. I'm quite pleased that Zoom has been able to travel as much as he has and never had any problems. I do know that not everyone on this site has been as lucky. Do your research and go from there.

7. Posted by aliyoung99 (Budding Member 56 posts) 10y

I had my injections last month and lo and behold i came down with a nasty case of shingles last week. Doctor blamed the genetically engineered viruses that the kindly nurse had been jabbing me with over the previous 6 weeks.
I was recommended to have hep a, Japanese encephalitis and tetanus... The doctor wasnt too keen on the the Jap Enc one either...

Four weeks till i leave

YIPPEEE

8. Posted by RichyF (Budding Member 17 posts) 10y

Quoting lost again

A Dr. quoted $600 US dollars to get a rabbies vacination - you better be sure you need it if you are going to get it!

lol that is a crazy price.. i am having my rabies jabs free on the british nhs . so maybe the nhs is good for something :)

only one more rabies jab to go

9. Posted by Tina Bean (Budding Member 48 posts) 10y

i am having my rabies jabs free on the british nhs . so maybe the nhs is good for something

How did you managed to get that, i have been told by my GP in London that i have to go private! Yellow fever they can do on the NHS but it will cost me £48

The swines!!

x

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10. Posted by RichyF (Budding Member 17 posts) 10y

Quoting Tina Bean

i am having my rabies jabs free on the british nhs . so maybe the nhs is good for something

How did you managed to get that, i have been told by my GP in London that i have to go private! Yellow fever they can do on the NHS but it will cost me £48

The swines!!

x

my gp does it for free here in folkestone / kent.

but if i want yellow fever then i have to pay for it.

so far i have got hepatitis a / rabies / typhoid and have to buy the tablets for malaria, but the rest was free.