Hi...so I'm planning on heading off to Europe next september or later (2007) yes, I like to plan. I'm thinking of doing either topdeck or contiki Russia & maybe Eastern Europe....
Anyway I started looking at what people were bringing as I won't have much time to plan when school starts up again this Sept. I was simply amazedat what some were bringing in terms of long thermal underwear, big wooly socks and huge puffy coats :
I checked out the temperatures of Europe in the Winter - the average (about -5 in January) Even Russia only get's to -7 ..so this is just from the top of my head what I was sort of thinking on bringing....
- one pair of jeans
- two pairs of lululemons (they are yoga pants)
- 4/5 t-shirts
- one long sleeved t-shirt
- two hoodies
- One Zip up
- Two MEC Vests
- 6/7 underwear
- 3 bras
- light waterproof jacket
- 6/7 pairs of thick socks - but not wool
- one toque
- one pair of shorts
- one tank top
- pair of light pjs = long flannel pants & t shirt
- pair of flip flops/thong to wear in the shower & to double as my going out shoe
- two pairs of runners
I thought this seems pretty resonable...according to the weather sites i've looked at online...but i've never acctually been to Europe before in the Winter so if someone could help me out and explain how these people will not roast with long underwear on in 10 degree weather...because it's beyond me!
should i have posted this in the what to wear/bring forum??
[ Edit: Hi l wont move this now as you have had quite a few replies! ]
Being a Canadian you may well be used to very cold weather (depending on where you're from). I was in eastern Europe 18 months ago, and in Albania it largely didn't get too cold (coldest was -5 to -10), but in Romania (I was in the Transylvanian mountains) it got down to -28 - which was very cold to me!!
It's possible you might get a really cold snap while in central/eastern Europe during winter - so it might be an idea to pack some thermal underwear just in case (they don't take up much room anyway).
Hi there, thanks very much for the reply.
I was wondering if Europe (mostly) is a dry cold or a wet cold? I could see places along the cost being a wet cold and I would definitly need long underwear for -30!! If it's a dry cold though - say inland, there might not be a need for it.
What was the cold like where you went?
True. But as most countries in Europe border a sea, there's much more 'wet cold' than 'dry cold' around. And about min. temps: average may be only -5, but central and eastern europe can be much colder... (especially in the mountains). And Russia...Even in st. Petersburg it can get as low as minus 35 C...let alone the rest of the country (the lowest ever, somewhere in Siberia, is around minus 90 C!!!!)
But, if you think you've already enough to pack, you can buy the warm gear in Europe only when you need it, as a lot of winters are fairly mild.
So if I'm going to be in Russia (St. Petersburg & Moscow) & Stockholm, and that area in September/October; what do you suggest I bring? Do you think my list suffices, or am I forgetting something imperitive?
oh, but that's not yet considered 'winter'. In the most of europe, december/january/february are the coldest. September can still be fairly warm. If you're not planning to camp, you should be fine without special warm gear. The hoodies&jeans should do.
Yeah, I didn't think it was really winter, but I was on the contiki boards, and some of the people that are doing the same tour i'm doing but this year are bringing long underwear for september....so I got really confused! But I guess they could be hanging around for the winter <<shrug>>.