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1. Posted by Brendan (Respected Member 1824 posts) 10y

*warning status quo in question*

Is "Happy September 11th" the proper term? It seems to be on everyone's lips, I am sure Hallmark is going to be rolling out the cards. So I thought I would wish you all a Happy September 11th.

Remember, remember the eleventh of September.
Conspiracy Treason and Plot.
I see no reason why such Conspiracy Treason
should ever be forgot...

2. Posted by Isadora (Travel Guru 13926 posts) 10y

I don't quite know what your motives are for this thread, and I don't think I really want to have them explained to me. But personally, I do find it in poor taste. As always, everyone is entitled to their comments/opinions and, like you, I have just stated mine. :(

3. Posted by Cupcake (Travel Guru 8468 posts) 10y

My sister's girlfriend was due to give birth last Friday....by cesarean, they were too busy that day, so they scheduled her for today...she refused. She did not want her child born on 9/11. I have all the sympathy in the world for people who lost loved ones on that day...but terrible things have happend at some point on almost every day of the calander....Would you say "Happy December 7th?" to someone in Japan?

4. Posted by beerman (Respected Member 1631 posts) 10y

Brendan, perhaps a modicum of sensitivity should be employed for these types of disasters, if for no one else than the innocent victims and their families.

Sure, there is sufficient blame to poke at the powerbrokers of the world....I agree with you, the powerbrokers should be exposed and punished for the scum they are. Me? I would hang them publicly.

Innocent victims of violent crimes are not to blame for the crimes.

It seems just a bit crass to make light of a horrible event, regardless of where it took place. So please, attack the American administration to your hearts content, but leave the victims in peace.

5. Posted by Brendan (Respected Member 1824 posts) 10y

Hmm, I should have explained more. I thought people would be seeing the same as I. All of the news papers around where I live are saying " 9/11 Five years later". Everyone is recounting about where they were on that faitful day. It was getting to me that everyone (in my area) is in remeberance of themselves.

I tried to convey a satirical message about the "Hallmark" attitude that seems to be going on in my neck of the woods. My apologies for having you believe something different.

Dispite what some may think of me - I don't take solace from the deaths of others, human or otherwise. Honestly though, more people are killed by the likes of McDonalds every year than Terrorists.

It's true CC that every date on our calendar has some horrific act associated with it, perhaps we should say "Happy" in front of everyday though.

Beerman, I agree with you, and as I said before I didn't really present myself in complete form. Thinking that my intent would be clear. Fiver years later, everyone has fallen back into place, back into line. There are no more anti-war rallies (not on the same large scale). There are no more talks about the cause of such an attack. Everything is back to normal and back in it's place. (This is what I see at least, no one cares anymore, it's old news.)

I don't mean to make light on the deaths of the people in New York. It isn't my intent at all. I question the "official story" and that deems me incapable of caring about the dead? (I'm not saying that you deem me thus, I am generalising the situation, I know you are responding to my original post).

Innocent victims of violent crimes are not to blame for the crimes.

I couldn't agree more, perhaps though, it's hard to define who is an innocent victim. I think all would be hard pressed to find an "innocent" person - besides children.

Again, sincere apologies for my unexplained first post.
Brendan

6. Posted by beerman (Respected Member 1631 posts) 10y

That's OK, B. I didn't mean to sound like I was railing on you.

We are seeing what you're seeing on the tube, and it is making me sick too. The news media loves to dwell on misery, as does the administration. It tends to distract people from what is really going on elsewhere, i.e. heard anything about Darfur lately? If I see Barbara Walters ask one more family member: "Now that your son/daughter/husband/wife has been dead for five years, how do you feel? Is life back to normal?" That is the crap that most people want to see, and I think it's wrong. By watching others' misery, people don't have to face their own and can feel better about themselves.

Hallmark makes me nauseous too. And I see what you were trying to say. Focus, my friend, focus. The net needn't be cast so far afield to bring home the fish.

Innocence? Hmm. Let's say you're at work, doing what you do everyday, and a truck bomb destroys the RCMP vehicle parked outside your workplace. You and all your co-workers are liquified. Are you innocent? Did you personally inflict, or support any cause that inflicted harm to the bombers?

Innocent can be a narrower term as well.

Your sense of justice is OK...your heart is in the right place. We'll work on the sensitivity and focus. Now about that Mustang............

7. Posted by Jase007 (Travel Guru 8870 posts) 10y

B I see your point here, and it made me think: Just about every day now has some sort of rememberance to it, be it religious, country, or rememberance of some battle/disaster/victory etc....
2 thoughts on this:
1- it's good to remember our past, too often nowdays that that happened years ago is missed and we make the same mistakes.
2 - How do you pioritise the importance to said country in regards to rememberance and holidays?

8. Posted by james (Travel Guru 4136 posts) 10y

Quoting Brendan

Honestly though, more people are killed by the likes of McDonalds every year than Terrorists.

Then maybe George Bush should go after Ronald McDonald and the Hamburglar instead of Osama Bin Laden

9. Posted by busbybrack (Budding Member 8 posts) 10y

I think 911 will eventually settle down. I mean, do ppl still talkabout the pearl Hobor day?

I know it's important to rememeber history, but sometimes ppl use it to draw addention, you know?

10. Posted by james (Travel Guru 4136 posts) 10y

Quoting busbybrack

I think 911 will eventually settle down. I mean, do ppl still talkabout the pearl Hobor day?

I know it's important to rememeber history, but sometimes ppl use it to draw addention, you know?

Yeah, you're right. I'm sure that nobody in Japan talks about the nuclear bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki; particularly the old people.