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11. Posted by arvyt (Budding Member 31 posts) 10y

SydneySiders = people from Sydney
kind of like saying Melburnians for people from Melbourne

12. Posted by WONDERBUS (Budding Member 30 posts) 10y

Well, the original post was titled 'Sydney Versus Melbourne' and the original question asked was: 'Which one do you think has more to see and do?

Sydney perhaps...Why? There's a little more to do in Sydney than just the Harbour Bridge 'click' and the 'Opera House' click. These 2 places make up about 0.00005% of Sydney. Sydney stretches for nearly 70km from the coast out to the foo thills of the Blue Mountains in the west and practically the same distance from Palm Beach in the north to the Sutherland Shire in the south.

By the way, I think Perth is a very good option. There's a good reason why a lot of English people opt to move to Perth. It's a beautiful city. I think it deserves the title ' The Worlds Most Livable City.'

Also on the subject of crowded beaches, get out of Bondi, Coogee and Manly ( the city's most accessible beaches )and catch a bus to the northern beaches. It's ironic that an Irishman points out the fact that Sydney beaches are crowded.In the summer time, most people on these beaches are from Ireland and England. The city beaches are packed with tourists, enjoying the beach and having a good time. Sydney locals have about 50 beaches to choose from. A small percentage go to the 3 crowded beaches and the rest go to the other 47 uncrowded beaches which line Sydney's coast.

As far as Melbourne and Sydney rilvalry goes, why do you think Canberra ( Australia's Capital ) ended up right in the middle of Sydney and Melbourne?

1.(a)For a less crowded beach, head up to Pittwater/Palm beach ( catch a bus from Wynyard or Central Station ). It's the most northern point of Sydney. There is a lighthouse on the headland at Palm Beach ( Barrenjoey Lighthouse ). If you're feeling fit, you could walk up to the lighthouse and prepare yourself for one of the most breath taking views Sydney has to offer. In my opinion, it looks a bit like the Greek Islands. The walk up will take about 40 min approx.

1 (b) Take a cruise around Pitt Water, you might even see a few penguins or a Dolphin.

2. Catch the train out to Parramatta ( 30 min trip from Central Station )walk to the River cat wharf ( 10-15 minute walk from Parramatta Station . Catch the River Cat along the entire length of the Parramatta River. The river eventually becomes the Sydney Harbour and you can finish your trip back at Circular Quay. This will give you an entirely different perspective of Sydney. The trip goes for about 50 minutes. The first 10 minutes of the ferry trip is industrial and fairly average, but after that it is beautiful. The ferry trip will cost about $7.00 one way.

3(a).Go to Doyles at Watsons Bay. If you love sea food, do yourself a huge favour and catch the bus to Watsons Bay. Doyles is Sydney's most famous seafood restaurant, plus the setting is beautiful.

3 (b) When you're at Watsons Bay, do the board walk around the top of the headland and make sure you check out North head at The Gap. The Gap is the gateway into Sydney Harbour from the ocean. Spectacular views.

3(c) Go to the Sydney Fish Markets for more seafood( just a 10 minute walk from Darling Harbour). Located at Glebe Point, near the ANZAC Bridge. You'll find an amazing array of fresh and cheaper seafood.

4. You can do a walk from the southern end of Bondi Beach, all the way around to Coogee Beach. It'll take about an hour if you walk consistently. It's a beautiful walk around the coastal fringe and you can catch the bus back to the city from Coogee. You can also do the walk starting at Coogee Beach. Have a beer at the ‘Icebergs’ (at the southern end of Bondi Beach), then head around to the Beach Palace Hotel at the northern end of Coogee beach ( drop in for a drink at the beer garden located in the Coogee bay Hotel as well ). Icebergs and the Beach Palace offer beautiful views across both beaches from their balconies.

5. Catch a bus down to Balmain (15 min trip from the city) Balmain has nice pubs, cafe's and restaurants.

6. Go to the Jenolan Caves. Book a day tour which covers the Blue Mountains and the Jenolan Caves. The caves are located about 3 hours west of Sydney.

7. Do the ‘Spit’ to Manly walk (catch a bus to the Spit Bridge). It’s about a 3 hour walk around the edge of the harbour. Go for a walk at Manly beach then catch the ferry back to the city.

8. Go abseiling, horse riding, rock-climbing, canyoning, adventure caving or hire a mountain bike up in the Blue Mountains. It is undoubtedly one of the best places in Australia to do these types of activities. The place is beautiful.

9. Check out different markets around Sydney:

  • Glebe markets
  • Bondi beach markets
  • Balmain markets
  • Rocks markets
  • Paddington markets

10. Catch the train down to Cronulla Beach ( south Sydney/about 45 min on a train ) to lap up a great local’s beach. Yes the home of the Cronulla Riots. A problem which has been brewing for over 20 years. It takes a Sydney person to explain the problem. Sydney siders don't like seeing their young Life Guides being bashed up by gangs.

11. Go to Newport Arms at Pittwater on a Sunday afternoon, sit in the beer garden and just chill chill chill. This place as a very nice and relaxed feel to it. It's a favourite with the locals, you won't find many tourists there because The Newport Arms would be unknown to most visitors to Sydney.You’ll have to catch the bus up from Wynyard station (ask the driver where to jump off).

12. Hire a sea kayak down near the Spit Bridge and go for a paddle .

13. Go sailing at Middle Harbour. Ths is relatively inexpensive.

14. Catch a train up to Brooklyn (Hawkesbury River/ 1 hour north of Sydney) get on the little boat that takes you over to Hook Island. Go for a walk on Hook Island and just enjoy being up there.

15. Round up 10 people; hire a houseboat on the Hawkesbury River for two days and a night. Beautiful. The Hawkesbury river is, a river that acts as the border to Sydney. It wraps around Sydney from the north, north west and west. It's about 170km long ( approximately ).

16. Head down to Newtown ( 5 minute from central station on the train ), walk along King st, great shops, pubs, cafes and food to die for…especially Thai food. Newtown is a bit like the ‘Camden Town’ of Sydney.

17. If you want to visit Vietnam whilst in Sydney, catch a train out to Cabramatta (45 min on the train south west Sydney), great Asian food. Practically everyone down there hails from Asia or are first generation Aussies.

18. Go on a harbour party cruise at night time or day time. These are damn good fun. Google 'Route 69.'

19. For a mind blowing day out, go to a rodeo! Held once a month in Sydney.

20. Hire some roller blades and go roller blading along the esplanade at Manly Beach.

21.Catch the train an hour south and get off at Thirroul and check out where the mountain meets the sea, it's a beautiful area.

21. For night clubs, pick up the '3D' magazine. For bands, pick up 'Drum Media.' These magazines are free and new weekly editions are available from most music shops every Tuesday afternoons.

22.Sydney's Olymic park is a mecca for different sporting pursuits. Yiu get catch the train out there from Central Station, change trains at Strathfield Station.

There's many many more things you can do in Sydney, but coupled with the 'usual sights' of Sydney, you're destined to have a fantastic time.

Copy this list.

If you want to know anything else, please let me know.

Cheers

WONDERBUS

13. Posted by majito (Respected Member 442 posts) 10y

Most livable city......who actually gives out these awards? Those who live in it and haven't lived anywhere else? Do the homeless vote?

I think they're both bloody fantastic cities. Melbournes a little on the cheaper side, and is a bit less congested. I always found it more user friendly as well. Sydney on the other hand just has this vibe about it that keeps me here.

Both are experiencing growing pains.

14. Posted by steff (Travel Guru 1160 posts) 10y

Though being a foreigner I had the chance to live in Melbourne for the past nine months and extensively visited Sydney (adds up to 3 months in total over the past three years). I think it really depends on what you're particularly looking for. I can only agree with majito they are both fantastic cities, so why not going to one first and stay there the whole time if you like it. This also gives you the chance to really get to know the city instead of "rushing" through. And if you don't like it go and check out the other. So far I haven't had any reason to move to Sydney ;).

15. Posted by carosterns (Respected Member 159 posts) 10y

You will never get any one to give an unbiased opinion. Both have lots to see and do so it really depends on what you really like doing. I love to sail/yacht race so Sydeny is the best place in my books. But Melbourne is nice and it would be a shame to miss it. Both are expensive (for Australian cities) Melbourne weather can be a bit off but Sydney has a very definate wet season. Wonderbus has given you just a hint of what you can do in Sydney and the list would be as long for Melbourne.

I suggest you flip a coin, either way, you will enjoy yourself.

16. Posted by grasshoppa (Full Member 202 posts) 10y

Melbourne to me feels a bit boring sometimes but Sydney has a this constant vibe about it

17. Posted by blitz (Budding Member 47 posts) 10y

Quoting HafJafMark

I would reccomend Melbourne definately, Im a little biased having lived in Melbourne, whereas i only visited Sydney. Sydney has more sites to see, so its probably a better place to visit, but Melbournes better to live in my opinion.

Spot on! :)

18. Posted by k8iejo1983 (Budding Member 49 posts) 10y

Quoting WONDERBUS

By the way, I think Perth is a very good option. There's a good reason why a lot of English people opt to move to Perth. It's a beautiful city. I think it deserves the title ' The Worlds Most Livable City.'WONDERBUS

HERE HERE! Couldn't agree more. I spent 4 and a half months in Sydney at the beginning of this year. I am now just coming to the end of 2 and a half months in Perth and to be quite honest, my biggest regret is that I didn't do the 4 months here and only 2 in Sydney.

Perth is absolutely wonderful in every way! Beautiful, clean with loads of things to do and plentiful job opportunities. You've got the gorgeous Margaret River region a short drive down south, not to mention the outstanding west-coast wonders, such as Ningaloo Reef up north. WA has just won me over big time!

The climate here would have to be the best I've experienced and the people are noticeably friendlier and more laid-back than Sydney-siders.

I have yet to visit Melbourne, but all in all given a choice of Sydney or Melbourne, I say - choose Perth! ;)

19. Posted by larry1295 (First Time Poster 1 posts) 10y

I'm from South Africa but have lived in Sydney for 30 years - so no bias here! Come to Sydney see the Opera House and Bridge,maybe Bondi and Manly beaches - that's all it has! After that head for Melbourne.Sydney is all show and no go.Drive through Sydney at midnight and all you will experience is a possible mugging.Drive through Melbourne and the place is jumping - pubs,clubs,theatre and discos.

20. Posted by grasshoppa (Full Member 202 posts) 10y

Quoting larry1295

I'm from South Africa but have lived in Sydney for 30 years - so no bias here! Come to Sydney see the Opera House and Bridge,maybe Bondi and Manly beaches - that's all it has! After that head for Melbourne.Sydney is all show and no go.Drive through Sydney at midnight and all you will experience is a possible mugging.Drive through Melbourne and the place is jumping - pubs,clubs,theatre and discos.

hmmm... no night life in Sydney!! couldnt be more wrong!

havent u read seen wonderbuses list of things to do in Sydney???

the list just goes on and on

are you sure you live there

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