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1. Posted by Lucia2580 (Budding Member 9 posts) 9y

Hi there,

Has anyone actually travelled with Oz Experience? Having looked at there web site it seems that they do a lot of tours and things included in the price... Would people say that its worth paying the extra (compared to say Greyhound)??

Many thanks,

Lucia

2. Posted by HafJafMark (Respected Member 291 posts) 9y

try these guys. Most people I spoke to thought they were the cheapest.

http://www.peterpans.com/catalog/default.php

3. Posted by strewf (Budding Member 5 posts) 9y

OZ Experience - Super Size Me! Why eat junk food when you can eat gourmet food? Oz Experience is the McDonalds of Day and Overnight tours in Australia. Go with Greyhound, it's cheaper, you don't get stuck in the middle of nowhere and you'll be left with a better taste in your mouth. I'm pretty sure their drivers won't drive all day the next day with a massive hang over either.

4. Posted by Sam I Am (Admin 5588 posts) 9y

Quoting The Truth

OZ Experience - Super Size Me! Why eat junk food when you can eat gourmet food? Oz Experience is the McDonalds of Day and Overnight tours in Australia. Go with Greyhound, it's cheaper, you don't get stuck in the middle of nowhere and you'll be left with a better taste in your mouth. I'm pretty sure their drivers won't drive all day the next day with a massive hang over either.

David, I have nothing against people giving their opinion in the forums, but you should note that there are rules in our forums about inflammatory postings and I've removed several of yours for this reason (plus you're also leaving yourself exposed to potential action by OE themselves). You seem to have some sort of beef with OE, and whether justly or not, I don't think this forum is where you should be trying to get your revenge. Personally I also think it would show a lot of character by specifying what company you worked for that went out of business. I have some years of experience working with Australian companies in the backpacker industry and tons go bust all the time due to bad management more than anything else. Oz Experience is actually one of those companies that's been on the verge of bankruptcy 2/3 times and been bought out by new owners each time. The newest owners are just trying to run a successful business, much like any other business owner would.

Personally I think OE has a great product in a niche market. Any company going head to head with them should be able to handle some competition.

5. Posted by strewf (Budding Member 5 posts) 9y

The tourism industry in Australia is one of our biggest industries. It is a big deal for tour companies big and small.

I'm not sure if you know how it works down here, but you need to dig deeper than the surface, be involved in the actual industry and really know what's going on.

Yes, small tour companies go bust all the time, you're correct, mainly by mismanagement or a lack of cashflow. Other small tour companies get pushed out of business by the bigger companies. Being involved in the industry in Australia for the past 10 years, I think I have a grasp of whats going on.

When a company brings backpackers regularly to a hostel or hotel, you will find they have a BIG amount of influence over that particular place of accommodation. They call the shots.

It goes like this: The Big operator has been on a good wicket for quite some time,then over time,the hostel owner wants to give his guests some variety and choice and starts recommending the smaller operators tour. He's found that his guests comes back and gives a very positive report regarding the tour. The hostel keeps booking the tour because they know the day tour provided by the smaller company is very good and they are consistently receiving great reviews regarding the little operator's tour. The person booking the tour can rest knowing that the tour company he has recommended will deliver each and every time. Suddenly after a few months, the bigger operator notices that they are getting less bookings from the hostel, and realises they are losing a considerable amounts of money because of this little tour operator. The bigger tour operator's figures are down on last year, so the Big Operator gives the hostel owner an ultimatum. " Either you stop booking that other tour and all of the other tours on offer and only push us, or the hundreds of guests we book into your hostel will be taken to the hostel down the road." This is what's going on. Not just by Oz Experience but by other large tour companies as well. It's called collusion.

It's fine when a company is trying to move forward by being ethical, but it isn't fine when they are being unethical. No metter whatthe sixe of the company.

I feel as though I'm entitled to let the public know about certain under handed tactics that are being used in the industry. People are entitled to choice and when choice is stifled, people should be aware of it. This is happening all over the country whether you want to admit it or not.

Censor me if you want, but you'll be doing potential visitors to Australia a huge disservice. Everyone is entitled to choice.

6. Posted by davmol (Budding Member 28 posts) 9y

But are these tours good to meet people?
If the tours were decent and entertaining and gave teh opportunity to meet loads of people along the tip down the coast that would be excellent.Do Oz experience or peter pan offer this opportunity?

7. Posted by Sam I Am (Admin 5588 posts) 9y

Quoting davmol

But are these tours good to meet people?
If the tours were decent and entertaining and gave teh opportunity to meet loads of people along the tip down the coast that would be excellent.Do Oz experience or peter pan offer this opportunity?

This is my point exactly; what 'the truth' is writing has nothing to do with what travellers want to hear about when they book a trip. They care about having a fun day/week/year out and if OE or anyone else offers them that, they'll be happy.

Yes davmol, the trips are certainly entertaining and give you the opportunity to meet loads of people! But there are others that offer similar things, just not quite in the over Australia scale.

The Truth, yes I do know how it works. My point is that your posts offer nothing to the actual travellers. If it is so unethical, take it up with consumer affairs and sort it out with them. Travellers are after a good time and a quality product and someone's rant about being pushed out of business by a bigger player is not what they want to know about, nor is it what these forums or your member profile should be about! Plus, I bet you're typing your messages right now on on a PC running Windows software created by Microsoft?

8. Posted by majito (Respected Member 442 posts) 9y

First of all its not collusion. Collusion involves illegal acts and Oz Experience are not doing anything illegal. David, you have no idea what you are talking about and you are incredibly naive if you think Oz Experience is exercising undue market power. The fact is that you are forgetting the benefits bestowed upon the hostel by Oz Experience: full beds every or most nights; cash over the bar or in the restaurant. The small communities they go to that gain from added business; the customer feedback that is for the most part, positive. Sam does know what goes on down here - I can vouch for that - and so do I.

Your personal beefs about corporate bullies are total crap in a free market. Someone always loses when someone else is winning in business; someones always on top and its usually because they do a better job. When you are carrying big numbers you are perfectly and legally entitled to use volume to get a better deal than the next guy, and if you pass that deal on to your clients or use it to attract clients then you are smart. You sound like a sore loser.

Now for the benefit of Lucia: yes, Oz Experience is worth it.

9. Posted by davmol (Budding Member 28 posts) 9y

Majito,

Im not sure why youre addressing your comment to me!!
I have only asked about the entertainment value of the Oz experience as Ive never been on it before and wanted to know was it worthwhile or not.As I have never been on or heard of the Oz experience im not really in a position to comment so wouldnt.

10. Posted by majito (Respected Member 442 posts) 9y

Hi davmol,

It wasn't to you. It was to truth (David Johnson) who I see has now changed his handle to strewf(david david) and removed all of the rubbish on his profile about being an Oz Experience hater. Looks like someone saw sense or was officially warned.

My apologies Davmol if that's how it came across.