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1. Posted by Brendan (Respected Member 1824 posts) 10y

Greetings! I came back to a closed "Islam and Terror" and a single tear ran the course of my face.

I noticed "P.S. I was hoping that Brendan would reply with such a rational explanation that I would be 'hoisted by my own Plutarch'" haha I would have but I wasn't around - was travelling in Western Canada for a bit. but now I am back and as the Islam and Terror thread suggested a new thread should start.

I think what many perceive as democracy is a farce, our western states are no more democracy's than in medieval times, only the Kings are richer now.

2. Posted by beerman (Respected Member 1631 posts) 10y

Quoting Brendan

I think what many perceive as democracy is a farce, our western states are no more democracy's than in medieval times, only the Kings are richer now.

Perhaps, but in medievel times, you'd have been banished for heretical thinking, or at the very least, weighed against a duck.

And does perception make a concept right or true? Cannot the majority be wrong at times? Democracy is not set in stone. It must be allowed to grow and mature, as people should. The perceptions of youth are seldom the perceptions of age.

Now where did I leave that ermine robe......

3. Posted by Brendan (Respected Member 1824 posts) 10y

True, but perhaps I am not taken away (SEE Sent to Syria) because the facade would crack?

4. Posted by Jase007 (Travel Guru 8870 posts) 10y

I think what many perceive as democracy is a farce, our western states are no more democracy's than in medieval times, only the Kings are richer now.

The new Kings are heads of multi national companies, there is conspiracy theories aboound on who really runs the world. Some of these are so plausable maybe just maybe everyone needs to have a look at just how 'free' we realy are.

5. Posted by magykal1 (Travel Guru 2026 posts) 10y

I think 'Democracy' can mean many different things.

The sorts of democracies that have evolved in our nice civilised developed countries seem to prevent extremists from taking power.

As for the new kings being heads of multinational companies.. that's capitalism for you...

must.. crush.. capitalism..

6. Posted by Brendan (Respected Member 1824 posts) 10y

I agree with that, really our Prime Ministers and Presidents are mear figureheads to the lobbyists running the show.

7. Posted by wotthefiqh (Inactive 1447 posts) 10y

Quoting Brendan

I think what many perceive as democracy is a farce, our western states are no more democracy's than in medieval times, only the Kings are richer now.

I, with many of my fellow dung-gatherers, have pledged to vote for Sir John of Howard, our liege lord who has provided us with much peace, wealth and mirth in the kingdom of Oz.
He defends our borders zealously, and for that we thank the Lord.
Buffoons flee before him like chaff in the wind, and his loyal cabinet ministers Tony Abbot and Peter Costello deservedly slap the politically-correct around the bonce with inflated pig-bladders while baiting the Beazley bear.
He takes ordures from no-one.
If only he would ban Morris-dancing!!!

8. Posted by Brendan (Respected Member 1824 posts) 10y

The mighty kingdom of Canukistan would probably align well with Oz Land. Especially King Harper along with Lord Ralph of Alberta.

9. Posted by tway (Travel Guru 7273 posts) 10y

I'm reading Bill Bryson's Life and Times of the Thunderbold Kid (great, but not as good as his other stuff), and in it he talks briefly about American politics in the 50s. As well as all that McCarthy-ism and the fear of everyone and their mother-in-law being a Communist, Bryson also talks about Guatemala and how the newly-elected democratic government was outsted by the US because Guatemala dared to pay a huge US company to repatraite the Guatemalan land they were exploiting. In the end, the US helped reinstate a tyrant.

It got me thinking that "democracy" is a word that's thrown around a lot, but it seems to have a tradition of being misinterpreted or, worse, exploited altogether. Imagine being forced to name names in the name of democracy? Or to try to impose democracy on certain nations while taking it away from others - all to your benefit?

Where is the media in all this? Who's getting outraged - and who's reporting it? Or maybe it's undemocratic to show the underbelly of the beast.

10. Posted by james (Travel Guru 4136 posts) 10y

As someone once said, democracy is not perfect, but it's the best we have.