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1. Posted by dutchie (Budding Member, 22 posts) 5 Dec '06 08:59

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This is a bad place- my friend was drinking and when she woke up the manager was moelsting her - i think he drugged her. she was covered in bruises and blood.

again, do not stay here- this was a very distrubing experience that i wouldn't wish on anyone.

2. Posted by Mel. (Travel Guru, 4567 posts) 7 Dec '06 07:37

That is awful.
She did tell the police, didnt she?

Mel

3. Posted by Sam I Am (Admin, 5577 posts) 11 Dec '06 03:49

Quoting dutchie

This is a bad place- my friend was drinking and when she woke up the manager was moelsting her - i think he drugged her. she was covered in bruises and blood.

again, do not stay here- this was a very distrubing experience that i wouldn't wish on anyone.

This sounds terrible!

My only problem with this, as I noticed you've posted several times similarly, is that you could of course be another hostel owner. It's terribly sad, but this happens all the time I'm afraid! I can also almost guarantee that the manager of this hostel will be contacting us (ie. Travellerspoint) regarding this. You should also be aware that your postings border on (or are) slander and you could be criminally charged.... It's a sad world when I have to answer like that to what is a horrible experience, but I'm afraid I've seen too many posts like this that weren't legit.

4. Posted by dutchie (Budding Member, 22 posts) 12 Dec '06 08:49

Quoting Sam I Am

Quoting dutchie

This is a bad place- my friend was drinking and when she woke up the manager was moelsting her - i think he drugged her. she was covered in bruises and blood.

again, do not stay here- this was a very distrubing experience that i wouldn't wish on anyone.

This sounds terrible!

My only problem with this, as I noticed you've posted several times similarly, is that you could of course be another hostel owner. It's terribly sad, but this happens all the time I'm afraid! I can also almost guarantee that the manager of this hostel will be contacting us (ie. Travellerspoint) regarding this. You should also be aware that your postings border on (or are) slander and you could be criminally charged.... It's a sad world when I have to answer like that to what is a horrible experience, but I'm afraid I've seen too many posts like this that weren't legit.

i'd be prepared to call you to dicsus this. it is no joke or hoax, and surely you must prioritise the welfare of young girls above a complaint from a manager.

I can provide a descrption, date and two witnesses, but I do recognise that the nature of the interente is that i could be anyone posting for any reason. if he complains, please give him my contact details.

please believe me not for my sake, but the vulnerable girls travelling to rome.

5. Posted by dutchie (Budding Member, 22 posts) 12 Dec '06 08:50

Quoting Mel.

That is awful.
She did tell the police, didnt she?

Mel

no, she panicked and ran. she didn't tell anyone until she got home, apart from her friend whpo discovered her unconscious and covered in blood. the manager knew she was a virgin before hand.

6. Posted by wouterrr (Travel Guru, 3377 posts) 12 Dec '06 10:15

Quoting dutchie

This is a bad place- my friend was drinking and when she woke up the manager was moelsting her - i think he drugged her. she was covered in bruises and blood.

again, do not stay here- this was a very distrubing experience that i wouldn't wish on anyone.

Hard to believe!!! Why would a hostelmanager do this and still walking around.

7. Posted by dutchie (Budding Member, 22 posts) 13 Dec '06 03:26

i swear to god this is no hoax or a malicious lie.

i don't know for a fact that he's walking around, but i do know my friend was too scared to go to the italian police. What can I say? I can't prove anytyhing on the internet but this actually happened and it was even worse than i have described.

no one finds it more frustratng than me that nothing has been doen to bring the man to justice.

8. Posted by Mel. (Travel Guru, 4567 posts) 15 Dec '06 00:02

Hello Dutchie

I, most women and I think most men want violent crimes, against women, to be taken very seriously.
If u are a hostel owner, and u are using these crimes, as a slandering stick, to beat your opposition with, i think this would be in very poor taste. If that is the case, shame on u.

I think u should encourage your friend, to go to the police.
As, for giving your contact details, to the manager, of Enjoy, if he complains. I think u should avoid contact, with dangerous individuals. Let the police deal with them.

Mel

9. Posted by Sam I Am (Admin, 5577 posts) 15 Dec '06 00:07

Quoting Mel.

Hello Dutchie

I, most women and I think most men want violent crimes, against women, to be taken very seriously.
If u are a hostel owner, and u are using these crimes, as a slandering stick, to beat your opposition with, i think this would be in very poor taste. If that is the case, shame on u.

I think u should encourage your friend, to go to the police.
As, for giving your contact details, to the manager, of Enjoy, if he complains. I think u should avoid contact, with dangerous individuals. Let the police deal with them.

Mel

I couldn't agree more; it would absolutely be best for your friend to go to the police! Seeing as you stayed at this property, I guess the hostel manager already has all your personal details from payment/check in though...

10. Posted by dutchie (Budding Member, 22 posts) 15 Dec '06 02:18

I was never there, and neither me nor my friend are in italy.

as with many cases of this nature, the lack of evidence will mean that the police do little or nothing, and my friend would not be willing to talk abotu this with them.

I do nto see how a rival hostel owner would gain from posting this sort of sutff on the internet, but I can assure you I am not one and am not making this up as some sick prank. All I can do is to try to reduce the risk of this happening to others, but from the reception I'm gettign here I can see that this is futle, which depresses me like you wouldn't believe.