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41. Posted by Mel. (Travel Guru, 4567 posts) 3 Jan '07 04:28

I agree, Laura.
It give one a feeling for why things are like they are and why people are a certain way, in various countries.

Mel

42. Posted by oslaue (Full Member, 571 posts) 3 Jan '07 04:39

Mel...you could always PM me and i will be happy to tell you the story of my life....real storys...happy storys and sad storys!

i am also locked up too...but instead of a prison i am in a huge office block!

my employers make me work 9-5, they dont give me food or water, they expect me to find this myself...they dont allow my co-workers to smoke in the office or to drink.

in the summers they expect me to work in 30 degrees weather!,
they dont even buy us ice cream!

visit us!!!

43. Posted by Mel. (Travel Guru, 4567 posts) 3 Jan '07 06:55

Do they pay well, Oslaue?
What do u do, for a living?

Mel

44. Posted by oslaue (Full Member, 571 posts) 3 Jan '07 07:47

i work as a IT consultant / specialist. specialising in automation development, testing, managment, consulting for banks, telcoms, government projects mainly...actually i can do any industry.

my pay can be ok sometimes. i work for myself contracting, where you probably know that the money i make in 3-6 months is what joe soap makes in 12-15 months. daily rates vary depending industry such as financial, telco, government. but i dont get any of the perks like a permi gets such as medical, paid holidays etc...

you get to work on a 1 weeks notice period...it does have its benefits!

the rates we are talking about here can be anything betwen 400-900euro a day...

no real difference betwen perm and contract except for pay, plus i can work pretty much so anywhere. but also means you live a shit and unstable life!

45. Posted by oslaue (Full Member, 571 posts) 3 Jan '07 07:49

o...and have a few offshore bank accounts to fidel the system! in a legal manner!

46. Posted by karazyal (Travel Guru, 1171 posts) 3 Jan '07 21:29

Quoting Laura_B

Quoting Mel.

I agree, Laura.
It give one a feeling for why things are like they are and why people are a certain way, in various countries.

Mel

There are a few more as well "Damage Done" By Warren Fellows an Australian drug dealer and also "Forget you had a daughter" by Sandra Gregory, a British woman who was stranded in Thailand with no money smuggled heroin for money for a flight home, although she never made it on the plane! She spend a few years in a Thai prison, but then got transfered back to prison in the UK.
These stories should put anyone off having anything to do with drugs in Thailand!



Quoting Mel.

Thanks Laura
Books are so much more interesting, when one has met people, experiencing what is in the books. That is one big advantage of meeting and talking with people in all kinds of situations and/or doing various things, with their lives. I think i will read a bunch of them. Hopefully, they will be in our local library, so I wont have to buy them.
Mel

Why is it that most of the visitors to these prisons are women? Are these prisons just another "Soap Opera" to view? Something for women to see, like a telly show involving "feelings?"

Bottom line is that these are convicted felons! They were convicted of committing crimes in a foreign country. They took their chances and now they have to pay the price for their crimes. Many of these convicted criminals are DRUG TRAFFICKERS who intended to bring their dope back to their countries and probably have that dope end up in the hands of children!

The prisoners in these prisons are not movie stars, they are convicted criminals! Do the crime - do the time!

And Happy New Year!

[ Edit: Fixed quote ]

47. Posted by rbyslipahs (Respected Member, 349 posts) 4 Jan '07 00:18

Wow... this thread got ugly really quick.

There's very little need for evidence in many of these cases. The drugs can be planted in your belongings without your knowledge, and you'd still wind up with the death penalty. I've worked in a residential rehab center, and I'm all for justice, but the death penalty? A bit severe.

I'd gladly visit anyone falsely accused or who made a poor choice out of desperation. Who hasn't made bad choices? The punishment should fit the crime, though.

I think one of the points here is that we are talking about people who don't even have basic sanitation. Basic sanitation, of course, NOT including X-Box or other "delights" of a western prison. There's actually a web project out there that sends sanitary products, including underwear and feminine products, to female prisoners.

Take the rants elsewhere. This thread was stickied for info that Mel was offering, not as a platform.

48. Posted by Mel. (Travel Guru, 4567 posts) 4 Jan '07 01:12

Hello Karazyal

I dont think most of the vistors are women.
A lot of men visit too.

As for your comment about if it makes me feel good. It does not make me feel good. Meeting people in difficult situations, in life, involves a certain amount of stress. But it does give me a broader prospective, about what is going on, in the world.

Mel

49. Posted by Mel. (Travel Guru, 4567 posts) 4 Jan '07 01:22

Thats exactly right Rbyslipahs.

It is here, for me to give and receive information, about the foreigners, in Thai prisons.

About things turning ugly.
I read somewhere recently, that whenever somebody wants to do something, there will be a hundred people nit picking, about it. There is probably some psychology, behind this. Would make interesting reading, if i can get hold, of a book, about it.

Mel

50. Posted by Mel. (Travel Guru, 4567 posts) 4 Jan '07 01:33

Oslaue

I think it is not necessarily more stable, when one has a permanent job. I used to work, for a couple of computer companies, and that is also what my boyfriend does for a living. Permanent staff are constantly being made redundant. People blame the shareholders, for this instability, as u would know. I had 3 work places, in 3 years. My boyfriend had 3, in 6 years.

But what is the name of the company, u work for?
Who are these b*st*rds, who dont give u icecream, when it is a stinking 30C outside?

Mel