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51. Posted by oslaue (Full Member 571 posts) 7y

o...and have a few offshore bank accounts to fidel the system! in a legal manner!

52. Posted by karazyal (Travel Guru 1328 posts) 7y

Quoting Laura_B

Quoting Mel.

I agree, Laura.
It give one a feeling for why things are like they are and why people are a certain way, in various countries.

Mel

There are a few more as well "Damage Done" By Warren Fellows an Australian drug dealer and also "Forget you had a daughter" by Sandra Gregory, a British woman who was stranded in Thailand with no money smuggled heroin for money for a flight home, although she never made it on the plane! She spend a few years in a Thai prison, but then got transfered back to prison in the UK.
These stories should put anyone off having anything to do with drugs in Thailand!



Quoting Mel.

Thanks Laura
Books are so much more interesting, when one has met people, experiencing what is in the books. That is one big advantage of meeting and talking with people in all kinds of situations and/or doing various things, with their lives. I think i will read a bunch of them. Hopefully, they will be in our local library, so I wont have to buy them.
Mel

Why is it that most of the visitors to these prisons are women? Are these prisons just another "Soap Opera" to view? Something for women to see, like a telly show involving "feelings?"

Bottom line is that these are convicted felons! They were convicted of committing crimes in a foreign country. They took their chances and now they have to pay the price for their crimes. Many of these convicted criminals are DRUG TRAFFICKERS who intended to bring their dope back to their countries and probably have that dope end up in the hands of children!

The prisoners in these prisons are not movie stars, they are convicted criminals! Do the crime - do the time!

And Happy New Year!

[ Edit: Fixed quote ]

53. Posted by rbyslipahs (Respected Member 349 posts) 7y

Wow... this thread got ugly really quick.

There's very little need for evidence in many of these cases. The drugs can be planted in your belongings without your knowledge, and you'd still wind up with the death penalty. I've worked in a residential rehab center, and I'm all for justice, but the death penalty? A bit severe.

I'd gladly visit anyone falsely accused or who made a poor choice out of desperation. Who hasn't made bad choices? The punishment should fit the crime, though.

I think one of the points here is that we are talking about people who don't even have basic sanitation. Basic sanitation, of course, NOT including X-Box or other "delights" of a western prison. There's actually a web project out there that sends sanitary products, including underwear and feminine products, to female prisoners.

Take the rants elsewhere. This thread was stickied for info that Mel was offering, not as a platform.

54. Posted by Mel. (Travel Guru 4567 posts) 7y

Hello Karazyal

I dont think most of the vistors are women.
A lot of men visit too.

As for your comment about if it makes me feel good. It does not make me feel good. Meeting people in difficult situations, in life, involves a certain amount of stress. But it does give me a broader prospective, about what is going on, in the world.

Mel

55. Posted by Mel. (Travel Guru 4567 posts) 7y

Thats exactly right Rbyslipahs.

It is here, for me to give and receive information, about the foreigners, in Thai prisons.

About things turning ugly.
I read somewhere recently, that whenever somebody wants to do something, there will be a hundred people nit picking, about it. There is probably some psychology, behind this. Would make interesting reading, if i can get hold, of a book, about it.

Mel

56. Posted by Mel. (Travel Guru 4567 posts) 7y

Oslaue

I think it is not necessarily more stable, when one has a permanent job. I used to work, for a couple of computer companies, and that is also what my boyfriend does for a living. Permanent staff are constantly being made redundant. People blame the shareholders, for this instability, as u would know. I had 3 work places, in 3 years. My boyfriend had 3, in 6 years.

But what is the name of the company, u work for?
Who are these b*st*rds, who dont give u icecream, when it is a stinking 30C outside?

Mel

57. Posted by Mel. (Travel Guru 4567 posts) 7y

Off shore accounts
Good idea Oslaue

I dont know, about where u are, but if one is made redundant from ones job here, one has to spend most of ones money, before one can get any social welfare. Sucks, when a person has saved for something, and then accidentally gets made redundant. Wise to keep all savings, in another country.

Mel

58. Posted by oslaue (Full Member 571 posts) 7y

its true what you say about perm and contracting...the only real difference i see with contracting is that if you are perm you get a pension and are entitled to certain benefits...with contracting i dont think one is entitled to this at all.

for example, i needed some treatment to my teeth...route canal, a fillings etc etc i spent over 1,400 euro! had i been working perm i would have got this all this free. and now i am told that i need my wisdom teeth taken out within the next year or two.

the whole purpose of an offshore account in my case is that i pay much less taxs! i also dont really reside in the country that i am working in...and i use these addresses...in my case 3 in 3 different countrys.

for contractual reasons and for the area that i am currently involved in i cant mention who i work for...but its a financial company.

previously i worked for abn amro bank, central bank, atos origin, ibm, alcatel telecom - france space center, orange, cable and wireless, siebel, oracle, uk home office, uk defra, uk dwp, microsoft, adobe, thompson corp.....................

[ Edit: Edited on Jan 4, 2007, at 2:09 AM by oslaue ]

59. Posted by Laura_B (Respected Member 352 posts) 7y

BTW karazyal, I have never visited anyone in a Thai prison, only read books about foreigner prisoners and their time in Thai prisons. I am only interested in their stories, I do not pity them or see them as stars.

I'm interested in what Mel had to say about visiting prisoners in Bangkok, but I do not intend to visit them, personally I wouldn't know what to say or whether it would be appropriate for me to go.

60. Posted by Sam I Am (Admin 5579 posts) 7y

Quoting rbyslipahs

Wow... this thread got ugly really quick.

There's very little need for evidence in many of these cases. The drugs can be planted in your belongings without your knowledge, and you'd still wind up with the death penalty. I've worked in a residential rehab center, and I'm all for justice, but the death penalty? A bit severe.

I'd gladly visit anyone falsely accused or who made a poor choice out of desperation. Who hasn't made bad choices? The punishment should fit the crime, though.

I think one of the points here is that we are talking about people who don't even have basic sanitation. Basic sanitation, of course, NOT including X-Box or other "delights" of a western prison. There's actually a web project out there that sends sanitary products, including underwear and feminine products, to female prisoners.

Take the rants elsewhere. This thread was stickied for info that Mel was offering, not as a platform.

Thanks for that rbyslipahs, you are very correct. Any discussion not pertaining to the actual visiting of the prisoners will be deleted from this thread. If you want to have a debate about whether or not prisoners have/haven't done the crime, feel free to start the thread in Off Topic.