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1. Posted by bribomb (Full Member 30 posts) 12y

Hey all,

i am 18 and i am looking into moving to europe after i finish college. i am very liberal and am looking for a strong sense of community, loose government, and friendly people. i am living in america, and simply put " i want out" so if anyone could reccomend a country that would fit my characteristics, that would be great.

thank you,
brian

2. Posted by coldwarspy (Travel Guru 1108 posts) 12y

Hey Brian
I UNDERSTAND what u mean. im Finally leavin after 8 years of trying.
Im movin to the UK - BUT i dont think its the place for you. obviously the UK has similar Govt ties to the USA. But dont be duped by the media. The Govt of a country does not represent the feelings of its citizens - i.e. Spain for example.

For a strong sense of community and loose governement obviously the Dutch are very progressive - legalize gay marriage and Pot. So that might be one choice.

I prefer the Eastern Euro countries - while most of the Govts are still evolving from a communist coma....the people are welcoming westerners....esp. Romania and the Baltics...atleast from my experience - and your money will go further there as well.

BUT by the time u graduate - the East WILL change for sure - as its an evolving region.

I would suggest travel around a bit - thats what i did for the past 8 years.
Jeff

3. Posted by bribomb (Full Member 30 posts) 12y

thanks jeff,
i plan on going to europe in less then 2 weeks for 3 weeks. i am going to try and get some ideas on the governments. I know already that i dont want to move to france because their government is insane. I also plan on doing at least one semester abroad to get some more ideas. but countries i am looking at as of this moment are denmark and switzerland. I dunno why, i harldy know anything about their governments, but they seem like cool places to live. keep in mind i am an environmental science major and i would like to find work where i move to.

thank you,
brian

4. Posted by coldwarspy (Travel Guru 1108 posts) 12y

fair enough
But my opinion is that Govts areNOT indicative to the culture and common people. take the US for example - or even better - Spain - whose leaders make choices without the popular opinion.

France is a wonderful place - you should not bypass it as an option based on your thoughts on thier Govt.

Im movin to the UK but i think Blair is a DOLT and dont trust him....but i know the culture havin been several times and feel very comfortable there.

Swiss is great! nice people - you could do worse - but have some money saved before u go! Its expensive and gettin a job may be difficult.

goodluck - jeff

5. Posted by BasiaAlm (Full Member 61 posts) 12y

I can't stop laughing reading this thread. Are we having a new generation of hippies here, or what do you guys plan on DOING in Europe? Almost all Europe has high unemployment rate, Eastern Europe well into double digits, they are sick and tired of immigrants in general (they are by far not as welcoming as Americans!) and "loose" government is apparently a relative notion. All Europe is a lot more regulated in most life avenues than the USA. But, yes, there are countries that legalized pots and countries that legalized gay marriages.
That's LIBERAL government to me, not a LOOSE one. But what do I know.? I am just a foreigner and English is my fourth language.

6. Posted by coldwarspy (Travel Guru 1108 posts) 12y

oh! :) a hippy! thats a first...
what am I DOING??...im studying for a masters degree in Europe cuz its cheaper than in Boston. I plan on working web design from the UK on American Websites....cuz im well aware of unemployment levels. and i have found the friendliest people to be eastern europeans - esp under the age of 30.

I wouldnt say USA is less regulated by any means - Now in Boston, police have the right to stop us an search our bags on any public transport....for example.

No one should be discouraged from experiencing something new.
goodluck Brian.

7. Posted by bribomb (Full Member 30 posts) 12y

do i have to be a hippy because i dont like the united states. I think that american politics are ass backwards, and that european politics just happen to make more sence ( with exception). and dont say that the united states government is not restrictive... ohh please dont say that. I for one feel restricted.Hey jeff your from boston, weird... i am as well.

a not discouraged brian

8. Posted by moscowmetr (Full Member 267 posts) 12y

"We cannot defend freedom abroad by deserting it at home. "
Edward R. Murrow

You boys should be round up and shot for treason on the front lawn of the White House. Keep your liberal hippie minded propoganda off this travel exclusive site. All joking aside, I almost feel as if Canada is the land of milk and honey. Education cost half as much as in the states, our social health care system results in higher taxes but is worth it and if its a priority than pot smokin homosexuals are totally legal. Seems like when things are too perfect it seems almost boring. The humanity, maybe a little perspective is needed. Fight the power liberal seeking culture hogs. Whats with Boston, man?

-MM

9. Posted by coldwarspy (Travel Guru 1108 posts) 12y

whats all this talk of Canada aboooot, eh

true it is cheap too - we could live nicely on 5 american bucks a day, eh?

But you might be next on GW's hit list with all ur terror networks running abooot across the border. eh

;)

10. Posted by moscowmetr (Full Member 267 posts) 12y

not american = not care

The cheesiest stereotypes ever. Calling Back Bacon-Canadian Bacon, etc. for crying out loud.
GeoffG is officially banned from Canada.
I will act as most americans toward Canada and simply not give a damn. If you have the opportunity then go wherever it makes you feel happy, Euro is somewhere I love to be. Viva la Europa. Seems so sad to be american

MM