Hi, I have a couple of questions about a possible rtw trip.
Myself and my wife are planning a trip in springtime. We’re in our early thirties and neither of us have ever travelled like this before. so we’re fairly nervous about the whole thing.
Itinary roughly as follows:
start of march - perth for 2 weeks
mid march - new zealand for 6 weeks
start of may – east coast Oz for 6 weeks
mid june – japan for 2 weeks
start of july - ??? for 2-4 weeks
1. Are we crazy going at these times of the year to new zealand and east coast Oz ?
I don’t particaularly want 35 degrees sunshine, but I’d like it to be pleasant. I’ve looked at weather charts etc and I don’t expect it be great in NZ, but anecdotely I’ve heard differing opinions about NZ in April. Weather in OZ looks to be ok at this time even though it’s the winter.
2. I’m not sure where ??? is ?!
What we’d roughly want in order of importance is:
not too much hassle – we’re novice travellers
not europe, as I can go there for my 2/3 holiday every year.
decent weather in July
don’t really mind if it’s city / nature / relaxing. mix is best I suppose.
preferably somewhere we don’t have to get 101 vacinations.
I was thinking of China. Any other suggestions? We can get rtw tickets or else back to Ireland direct from Asia.
Any help / comments appreciated – I’m starting to lose sleep over these !
Having a look at your itinerary you'd probably struggle getting a RTW fare as at present it doesn't look like you're crossing either the Pacific or the Atlantic (which is a criteria for most RTW flights as far as I'm aware). So as for the ??? it may be worth considering somewhere in South America - you can easily get to Chile from Auckland and then fly back from either there or go overland to somewhere like Rio and then return from there. If you can't get a RTW fare for the trip you intend to make it can make it very very expensive so try to actually do a circuit if you can.
You'll also find it difficult to find a RTW ticket that includes Japan so you'd probably need to make your own way there and back from a RTW flight hub such as Hong Kong or Beijing.
Having said all this though something like this should be possible:
Ireland - Hong Kong
Hong Kong - Japan
Japan - Hong Kong
Hong Kong - Perth
Perth - Sydney overland via Cairns
Sydney - Auckland
Auckland - South America
South America - Ireland
That'd allow you to see the things you wanted to see but would avoid backtracking apart from on the Japanese leg. As for timing, Japan is good if you can get there for when the blossoms come out around the end of March as it's supposedly really beautiful. So that would mean you got to Oz for mid April when it should be mild but not cold. As for NZ weather, that's been appalling for quite some time now so it probably won't make much difference when you end up there!
Hope this helps, have a wonderful trip whatever route you decide to take!
thanks for your suggestions. you’re right it’s not rtw at the moment. I wanted to open it up to that, that’s why I posted it here.
that’s a good idea about going to japan first, and there’s no back tracking too. We *have* to go to perth early for other reasons, but I was just pushing out japan because I wanted to get to NZ and Oz as early as possible to try and minimise weather impacts. I don’t suppose a couple of weeks will make much difference. I was a bit put off south america as most places I looked the temperature was pretty cold during July. Although it is somewhere I’d like to see a part of.
I guess the months you want to visit New Zealand and Oz eastcoast are good, maybe a little bit cooler in New Zealand, but a sweater will solve that problem.
Actually, after Japan, you good try to go to Beijing and take the Transsiberian railway back to Europe. Or take an adventurous boattrip from Osaka to Shanghai, then go to Beijing and try to arrange your tickets over there.
If you decide to go to Japan first still making your trip starting in March, you should try and make it in the later part of March when the Cherry Blossoms are almost in full bloom. That is a very beautiful time to go and if you are in to your photography, you can't beat it. Japan wouldn't be anywhere near as beautiful when the Cherry Blossoms aren't on, because that adds a whole new thing to the main places like Tokyo and Kyoto with the festivities that are on then.
As for struggling to find a RTW ticket that takes in Japan, I know that the oneworld RTW ticket allows a flight to Tokyo, but my flight to Tokyo left from Sydney, but I know that a flight also goes from Hong Kong but unsure of if there is any other places you can get to Tokyo from on the Oneworld RTW ticket.
If you got the oneworld ticket and headed across to South America, if you are at all interested in history you should try and add Easter Island to your itinerary. That is a once in a lifetime opportunity and is an amazing place to visit for 3 or 4 days. I think on a mileage based one world RTW ticket you can get from Auckland-Papeete-Easter Island-Santiago. If you got the continent based ticket then it rules the Auckland-Papette option out, and limits your options a real lot if you did decide to go to Easter Island going around the world in the direction you would be heading. If you didn't head from South America, up to Central America or North America, you would basically be restricted to flying from Rio De Janiero-Madrid or maybe a couple of other cities in Europe. You'd need to get vaccinations for South America particularly the Yellow Fever vaccination for travel to Brazil, but it is worth it to be able to see South America.
Being from Ireland, you should be used to cold, crappy, rainy and snowy weather most the year round, with summer being 1 or 2 days a year. I'm sure Australia wont be too cold for you given the weather you get in Ireland, because I was freezing when I came to Ireland in June 2005, and I live in the coldest area of Australia.
Have a great trip.
[ Edit: Edited on Jan 3, 2007, at 5:09 AM by aharrold45 ]
Thanks for your replies. Yeah, you're right, the weather is pretty crappy in Ireland, but in some ways that's more of a reason to get some decent weather elsewhere! It never really gets that cold here though, hasn't dropped to freezing yet this winter.
We're condsidering putting the trip off by 3-4 months so we'll be in Oz/NZ for the spring, but I don't know if I can face an extra 4 months work first
[ Edit: Edited on Jan 6, 2007, at 8:49 AM by redbelly ]