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21. Posted by evadiva (Budding Member 30 posts) 8y

Quoting dbloom

"Call me anything you want, but don't call me late to dinner"

well said! i believe i heard that on a tape of Kermit the Frog cover tunes....

22. Posted by ikat (Budding Member 2 posts) 8y

I am black female in BsAs and I've been here for 2 months. I originally came with the plan to stay up to six months and am now returning in 10 days due to social isolation. The worst part about racism is not the taunts (monkey, sambo, etc- and believe me I've been called that due to having a natural afro), but the fact that people here see me as so different that I cannot be approached openly. I don't live in a tourist area, but a normal working class neighborhood and of course being a black woman some men feel the need to yell various things- compliments, insults, dog whistles, smooching noises. I have not seen a lot of men do that to white women so for me it is a sign of disrespect and way of intimidation. Then for the younger men, they approach in whispers as if they should not be seen talking to me.

I have been to Patagonia, close to the Brazilian border and all over BsAs not just the tourist areas and I don't see white and blacks interacting much socially. I see the rare interracial couple, but in the stores, restaurants, on the street I just don't see mixed groups of people hanging out. So for me the worst part is not the taunts because I am from "The South" in the US and I've been called much worse things, but the fact that people here don't see me as someone they can talk TO, but someone to talk/yell at or about.

To add my two cents...

iKat

23. Posted by Macachae (Full Member 240 posts) 8y

ikat do you speak Spanish???

24. Posted by ikat (Budding Member 2 posts) 8y

Entiendo su deseo para defender su país, pero usted debe darse cuenta de que lo que algunos otros han escrito acerca de el racismo en este foro son las experiencias verdaderas. Especialmente para mujeres negras (mujeres con la piel morena, piel más oscura que la suya) que a veces no somos respetado en Argentina.

Argentina no es un país tan terrible ni más racista que cualquier otro país que he visitado. Pero la verdad es que ciertamente no esperaba la reacción que recibí aquí. Y como un viajero del mundo como usted mismo que ha viajado a casi 30 países es el mundo, hay los lugares más fáciles de vivir como una mujer negra.

Sí, hablo español.

iKat

25. Posted by Macachae (Full Member 240 posts) 8y

Pregunté si habla Español para chequear si probablemente era una desconexión de idioma.
En cuanto a mi, tal vez la foto blanco y negro que tengo en el perfil no ayude mucho pero soy Mestiza-zambo (mis abuelos paternos son españoles, pero de mi linea materna mi abuela era mestiza y mi abuelo zambo: negro-aborígen), provengo de una ciudad muy humilde y pequeña en el norte de Salta, a pesar de mi origen simple, trabajando duramente pude viajar por el mundo y ver "todos los colores" y seguir educandome.
La provincia de Salta está poblada por gauchos, mestizos y aborígenes ese es mi origen y veo al mundo como es con sus cosas lindas y feas pero sobre todo veo al Ser Humano que hay en cada uno.
La vida me trajo a Buenos Aires donde desempeño una linda tarea por la que quiero devolver un poco de los que recibí en cada país que visité...
Visito y coopero este foro con el mismo espiritu con que enseño: buscar igualdades no generar desigualdades.
Todos somo libres de ver el mundo desde el filtro de nuestra propias vivencias.
Hubiera deseado que la suya sea más grata y que no sufra lo mismo inconvenientes en su propio país.
Espero que su próximo viaje, no importa a donde sea o vaya, la haga sentir bien ... porque viajar muchas veces es mas un viaje interior de auto-descubrimiento.

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27. Posted by RoryWindso (First Time Poster 1 posts) 7y

Unless you are white, you will face racism in Argentina. If you are a white person, you really can't tell other minorities that there is no racism because you don't experience the same kind of treatment and stares. People in Argentina are more willing to trust you if you are white. I've been here for two years, and even my close Argentine friends admit to me that it is a very racist society. In fact, taxi drivers openly admit how racist it is here. Also if you are North American and you are not white, expect Argentines to ask you what your race is, or where your parents are from. They simply cannot accept the fact that there are non-white North Americans. I think the racism is manageable if you are just visiting, but I would strongly suggest not living here if you are not white.

28. Posted by raee9019 (First Time Poster 1 posts) 7y

i was thinking of volunteering in Argentina for 6 weeks next summer..i am a young black female btw but i was nervous about it in regards to racism so i googled it and found myself here i found everyones responses very informative however it has really dettered me from going now as this will be my first time travelling alone and i just dont think i could cope with the extreme levels of racisms i am reading being described...it is a shame as i really wanted to go but i dont think it wud be wise im very confused now :/

29. Posted by lola.lc (First Time Poster 1 posts) 6y

Hi everyone, I think this may be an old thread but whatever I feel the necesity to take part in it.
I'm an argentine girl, 20 years old, born and raced in the province (Patagonia to be exactly), and I have to tell those who have said that in most of the places they've been in Buenos Aires, have felt "bad looks" and almost "disgusting faces", just know that's not racism, that's just the way a lot of people in the big cities act. I have gotten that looks and felt that way, and if it makes you feel better Im white and blonde, so.. there you go
No offense to the porteños or anything, my family is from Buenos Aires also, but there is a really big difference between the people from "capital" and the ones from the "interior". It's just a different way of approaching to people, you don't have to take it too personal, really..
Argentina has racist people, as most of the places around the world, but just because most of us have european blood, doesn't mean we feel superior to anyone. In fact I'm sure that any argentine can agree with me in this, we are used to be treated like a "latino" everywhere we go, specially first world countries.
And if people over here feels more atracted to speaking to a "european" fellow, I'm sure it's because of an ancestral thing, we're always eager to know more about the nations of our great grand parents, argentines are very proud of their origins, it's a cultural thing, for ex. there are several commemorations to celebrate the european inmigration, so that you understand what I'm saying.
And if you don't fit exactly under the "italian/spanish" look it's obvious people will feel curious to ask you where you're from, as you will see if you come,there aren't a lot of african-argentines over here.
To the people who's thinking of coming to this beautiful country and has become afraid because of this comments, don't be. Argentina is a cosmopolitan place, and argentines are very open to people who comes from other countries and shows interest for our culture, that's a great way to start bonding, knowing some words in spanish and be open minded to the experiencies you will live here!!
Don't be discouraged if you were thinking of coming over here, really.. there are @holes like evereywhere, but they're the minority and believe me they "Act" only when they're alone, because nobody ever would consider to support racist attitudes towards ANYONE!
One more thing! argentines often call people by their physical looks, always in a friendly way, it's like a "breaking the ice" thing, so don't get offended if you are a bit chubby and your friends start calling you "gordo" (wich means fat) or if you are indeed black and they call u "negro", is a very argentine way to reach to the other in a camaradity way.

So... visit Argentina, you will find people really open to meet you and help you, don't get discouraged if you find others who won't, just keep positive.. and you'll find more that wou where looking for :)

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