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41. Posted by smackerszj (Full Member 94 posts) 10y

Quoting mikehoben
hey don't worry about hating things your country is full of beautiful strippers enjoy life

Okay, are you trying to basically confirm American stereotypes here or what???

if the stereotype is loving and enjoying delicious canadian strippers then most definetely

42. Posted by Sam I Am (Admin 5588 posts) 10y

Quoting mikehoben

Quoting mikehoben
hey don't worry about hating things your country is full of beautiful strippers enjoy life

Okay, are you trying to basically confirm American stereotypes here or what???

if the stereotype is loving and enjoying delicious canadian strippers then most definetely

Hmmm, no, I wasn't going for that, but read around and I'm sure you'll get a bit of an idea what I mean. Your posts (not just in this thread) basically are exactly the type that help give Americans a pretty bad name as travellers. Also, what people from other countries read in forums like this one helps set their mindset on how travellers from that country are. In a way, everyone posting is an embassador of sorts to their country.

Other than that, just keep an eye on the forum rules. Offensive posts are removed as a matter of principle and several of yours get pretty close to that line.

43. Posted by Jetsetmaf (Budding Member 34 posts) 10y

Quoting mikehoben

Quoting mikehoben
hey don't worry about hating things your country is full of beautiful strippers enjoy life

Okay, are you trying to basically confirm American stereotypes here or what???

if the stereotype is loving and enjoying delicious canadian strippers then most definetely

Folks he is joking, its odd that an American makes a smartass comment, yet some of the blatant attacks on Americans in this thread receive no condemnation.

I have studied in Scotland and France, not to mention living in various locales in Western Europe for a significant portion of my life, and have seemed boorish fools of every nationality. I've come across Americans chanting U-S-A while annilated at a pub in Scotland. However, I've also seen enough football hooligans assaulting their own countrymen (in Scotland, England, and yes Spain and France as well). I've seen skinheads from the BNP jump a student because of the color of his skin in Edinburgh.

Racism, idiocy, hooliganism, and what have you happens everywhere and involve people from every country. Loud and obnoxious Americans? Guess what there are plenty of loud Brits, Italians, and Spainards. This superiority complex of some Europeans or Asians to Americans because of a perceived arrogance is asinine.

I enjoy travel it is one of my passions and I hope to make it an intrinsic part of my life in the future. I myself have encountered very little anti-Americanism. In fact I would hazard to say in this supposedly "open-minded" travelers community, I have read more anti-Americanism than I have ever experienced in all my travels. But then again, its only my opinion.

44. Posted by tway (Travel Guru 7273 posts) 10y

Quoting Jetsetmaf

Folks he is joking, its odd that an American makes a smartass comment, yet some of the blatant attacks on Americans in this thread receive no condemnation.

I think the point being made is that this particular poster's replies, in most threads, border on breaking the rules. If you take those replies as a whole, it gives Sam's response more context - and makes his point very valid, in my opinion.

The Anti-American thread contains people's experiences, both good and bad, meant to provoke conversation and stimulate intelligent replies. Unfortunately, now and then someone crosses the line.

45. Posted by tway (Travel Guru 7273 posts) 10y

Quoting john7buck

Tway, I think the issue is who we have in charge right now. It's not just Canada that gets chastised about those things. It happens on a daily basis at home to Democrats, or really anyone who doesn't agree with the the conservative "posse" in Washington.

I agree, John. I picked Canada as an example because I'm Canadian, and because we're right across the border. Canada enjoyed much better relations with the U.S. under the Clinton government but, as you mention, no relationship is ever perfect.

46. Posted by smackerszj (Full Member 94 posts) 10y

wow i'm experiencing anti-americanism right now...i never thought this could happen to me!

47. Posted by Sam I Am (Admin 5588 posts) 10y

Quoting mikehoben

wow i'm experiencing anti-americanism right now...i never thought this could happen to me!

Don't worry, our forum rules apply regardless of race, colour, sex

Quoting jetsetmaf

In fact I would hazard to say in this supposedly "open-minded" travelers community, I have read more anti-Americanism than I have ever experienced in all my travels.

Wow, I'm not seeing this at all, although I will agree that Americans have had a raw deal in general the last few years. Then again, it's not that long ago that hundreds of thousands of people went to the streets in protest against American policies overseas. The political decisions taken by the US unfortunately have a huge impact in influencing others opinions of Americans in general, travellers included. It shouldn't work this way of course, but it does. I also think that people are more likely to speak up and make their point in an online medium like a forum than in person.

Quoting john7buck

On another topic, how strange must it be for the Danish and Norwegians to have people pissed off at them right now?

Yep; very strange indeed! The news here is full of this. Most Norwegians are pretty much like 'hmmm, what did we do to deserve this?' Anyway... that's a whole other topic and best left out of this thread :)

48. Posted by Jetsetmaf (Budding Member 34 posts) 10y

Quoting Sam I Am

Wow, I'm not seeing this at all, although I will agree that Americans have had a raw deal in general the last few years. Then again, it's not that long ago that hundreds of thousands of people went to the streets in protest against American policies overseas. The political decisions taken by the US unfortunately have a huge impact in influencing others opinions of Americans in general, travellers included. It shouldn't work this way of course, but it does. I also think that people are more likely to speak up and make their point in an online medium like a forum than in person.

The bolded statement is ridiculous. What does that have to do with individual travelers? Many in America disapproved of French actions after 9/11 and in response to the War on Terror. So, by the logic you used it would be understandable for students at my east coast university to harass and belittle French exchange students (we receive quite a few from Sciences-Po). Instead we welcome them with open arms. Disagreement with a government is one thing. Condoning anti-Americanism because "...not that long ago that hundreds of thousands of people went to the streets in protest against American policies overseas. " is not. Frankly I could care less what political beliefs another person has. I studied at Sciences-Po (Paris) on an exchange program and despite there being quite a few students opposed to US actions, I never experienced a single case of anti-Americanism, in class, out at clubs, or in daily interactions. Intelligent discourse and disagreement is one thing, belittling a people because of their nationality and their political (or otherwise) beliefs, is quite another.

[ Edit: Fixed bolding for clarification of statements. ]

49. Posted by Sam I Am (Admin 5588 posts) 10y

I'm sorry, I don't think you read that very well. There is actually nothing wrong with what was bolded. It's a fact that hundreds of thousands of people went to the streets out of protest so I doubt you disagree with that?

If you disagree with my assessment that that is a reason for anti-americanism, that's a different matter. Personally, yes, I think political decisions made by the government do have an effect on others assessments of that country and their people (who have elected the government). I also pointed out that it shouldn't work that way, but unfortunately does. I've travelled all over the world and I know I certainly don't think that way as it's rather ridiculous, but that doesn't mean a lot of other people don't! Being open-minded also means being able to see this, even if you don't agree with it...

Anyway, that is only my opinion of course and it's certainly not the only reason that anti-american sentiments exist.

Oh, and by the way, I do NOT condone anti-americanism! There's a rather large difference between trying to explain what you think is a reason it exists and saying you support/condone it. I don't know how I could condone that being half american myself ....

50. Posted by james (Travel Guru 4136 posts) 10y

I've met many Americans on my travels, both nice ones and painful ones; the same as any other nationality. The nice ones outnumber the painful ones so who cares?

But I do have to ask - is there a rule somewhere which states that older US travellers have to wear dark blue jeans and bright white running shoes ?

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