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21. Posted by danalasta (Travel Guru 519 posts) 9y

Quoting Mel.

Danalasta

Maybe Thailand has been abused by statistics, or maybe not, and maybe or maybe not all the rest of what u said.
But it is a fact, that child prostitution is a tragedy, wherever, whenever...
Of course, as NYCgirl pointed out, prostitutition is also a sad life for many others.
What do u think, we can do to help those who are trapped, in such a life?

Mel

Yes, child prostitution and trafficking is a reality- and we all know that and detest those who are involved in it. And as a woman, you will definitely feel the pain these children of God are going through, regardless of race, creed or religion.

Your question - how can we help those who are trapped - draws me to an analogy: The hunter or the hunted? NGOs for far too long have been playing the role of "let's help the hunted " - it evokes human sympathy and generates funds.

This needs to be reassesed and NGOs should turn the other way round - go after the hunter" - those with fat wallets with an eye for "sweet young things". NGOs have always been looking at the "supply side" not the "demand" side", dishing out painful stories of child prostitution,its causes,etc. Have you read anywhere of any NGO-not necessarily Thailand-based -providing details and statistics on "sex hunters"? Yet, they are fast with statistics on prostitution, children and trafficking! The reasons are obvious!

The perpetrators are those with fat wallets and twisted mind,coming largely from wealthier nations, Asia included. You might argue that poverty, lax laws and enforcement are the reasons. You might also argue that governments have enacted laws to punish sex offenders,etc. But the painful truth is offenders are largely an educated lot and know what they are doing is wrong. It should, logically, be easier to get the message across to the "already" educated crowd.

Is there a need to justify recreational sex between two consenting adults? Then what are the guidelines? Both have to be single and unattached? Is it okay if one is married and the other is not? Herein lie the seeds of problems we are trying to address.

We should not judge sex workers themselves, but rather consider how ethical boundaries may be imposed upon the use of sexual labour,etc.NGOs, esp, should re-think their approach.

dana

22. Posted by Mel. (Travel Guru 4567 posts) 9y

Danalasta

I think i would better understand what u are saying, if u keep your explanations short and simple.
I really find your reasoning difficult to follow.

Mel

23. Posted by Dezafinado (Respected Member 177 posts) 9y

Quoting danalasta

Dezafinado -I think you have missed the point I was trying to make. I was not attempting to relate the cultural attitude of the Thais to prostitution.. Rather, I was referring to their cultural attitude steeped in Buddhism which has moulded the role of both men and women in the Thai society and still prevalent in rural Thailand.

Hmmm.... I thought you meant that Buddhism may have contributed to the problem by being passive and/or by learning to accept one's karmic disposition. This I would agree with, especially true with Theravada which focuses primary on personal salvation more than social ethics. In fact, Buddhism is not a very good source of assistance when it comes to resolving social injustice. However, I don't think Buddhism condones or promotes such lowly treatment of women. Let's not forget that it was Buddhism that tried to break down the Indian caste system in which a woman was nothing more than a man's property. Maybe the Thais have their own special Buddhist texts, I don't know. And of course, if clever enough the religious elite can twist a text to mean anything they wish. In the kingdom of the blind, the one-eye man is the king. We see this happen everyday even in advanced Western societies. But we don't see other Buddhist countries like Taiwan, China and Japan having the same problem. And the growing Buddhist community in the West, do the Buddhist men take their wives and daughters back to the Middle Age?

Thailand benefited from not being colonized yet it lags behind Taiwan, Singapore, South Korea and now worries about Vietnam... where more bombs were dropped than Nazi Germany. It's a personal observation but I think the Thai government or the power that be don't really give a F**k... pardon the pun.

[ Edit: Edited on Jan 21, 2007, at 3:15 AM by Dezafinado ]

24. Posted by Dezafinado (Respected Member 177 posts) 9y

I found this article. Did you write it or was it cut-n-paste?

Quoting danalasta

Prostitution has been a way of life in Thailand from time immemorial, and has not been considered an evil by Thai society. The blame can be found in the habits of Thai men, the government’s focus on foreign tourism, and in the inactivity and lack of concern of Christian churches and Buddhist temples. The latter take the position of "Hear no evil; See no evil; Speak no evil," and do little or nothing to counter the evil of prostitution.

In Thailand the position of women is a traditional one, remaining from the traditional position they have been assigned in Thai Buddhism. This is found in the traditional cultural attitudes of Thai men, and in the consequences of military presence, and its resulting culture of recreational sex. The social turmoil in Thailand provoked by World War II was a seedbed for the growth of prostitution in the country. It spurred the first example of a sex entertainment center for international tourists in Thailand.

The Vietnam War and the resultant R&R activities of service men in Thailand led to a dramatic increase in the use of Thai prostitutes by foreigners in the country. This period was followed by an aggressive tourism campaign, which encouraged tourists to come in great numbers. Most of these tourists were single men. The rapid increase in commercialization was encouraged by the news media.

Tourism has brought enormous growth in the construction of hotels, golf courses, condominiums, restaurants and various kinds of entertainment in the cities, and in provincial villages as well. Tourism’s impact on the sex industry — to what is now called sex tourism — has been a major contemporary contributor to the growth of child prostitution in Thailand.

There are two parts to the Thai policy of promoting tourism: one is to sell the physical and cultural beauty of the country; the other is to promote the Thai people, which of course includes sex-related services. "Amazing Thailand," a tourism campaign from 1998-99, promoted to foreign men to come and see Thailand’s beautiful women… and to enjoy the thriving sex industry.

The men arrive from Europe and the US, and often a bus is waiting at the airport to take them straight to the girls. All of this is organized through the Internet — and not only in Bangkok.

Sex tours encourage men to do something in a foreign country that they would not do in their own country. Sex tours degrade a country’s reputation. Sex tours are immoral. Sex tours spread disease. Sex tours treat girls and women like commodities, not persons — not like they are children of God.

dana

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