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1151. Posted by zawa (Budding Member 31 posts) 8y

Quoting koklin7

hi all......its me again....
thanks zawa for your kindness reply....
i hope more to come...
this is what i did for my appeal.....i hope to hear any comments and u may correct my grammar also,once again TQ all

Dear Sir/Madam,

I am here to make the appeal for the refusal of my application. I am very disappointed with the results of my second visa application. Since, I had been ready myself with the journey to UK. I feel very upset with this because I had put lot efforts to do thorough researches and surveys regarding the places I intended to visit, keep tracking cheapest air ticket available and the accommodations as well. I really hope that the officer can reconsider my application because I think this was my last chance and I do not think I am going to apply for the third times.
Here, I would like to clarify some points which stated in the refusal letter.
Based on the refusal letter,

Try make it straight and prompt, a bit long.

Quote “You have applied to travel to UK 1 year. I noted that on your previous working holidaymaker application, which was refused on 14/5/08, you stated that you would stay for 2 years in the UK. You have failed to explain this change in your intentions in period of less than 3 months. I am led to doubt whether you have been candid as to your true intentions with regards to your length of stay in the UK.”

Here, I would like to explain the change in my intentions to modify my travel duration from 2 years in the first application to 1 year in my second application. The change is due to my father hopes me to go back to help him in his business after one year, consider my father is aged so I planned to travel UK for only one year before I go back. It is also a promise between me and my father so that he sponsors me to UK.

This reason is ok I think, but try to relate to the change. Bcoz in the 1st place, how come your dad did not request you to return earlier?

Quote “In your previous application you stated that you wish to see a football match, work and travel around Europe. That was the extent of your planning. Once more you claim to wish to go and see a football match in London but have failed to stipulate who or where.”

In my previous application, I have admitted that I did a big mistake. I did not realize that I need to prepare a detailed travel itinerary. I taught I just need to answer the entire question provided in form VAF2. Therefore, I had answer section 6.2.2- What will you do in the UK? with the answer see football match, work and travel around Europe. I am understood that travel around Europe is not encouraged for a UK holidaymaker, since this is a UK visa and not Europe visa. As a result, I have minimized my travel plan to Europe for only less than a month.

Secondly, for the statement “Once more you claim to wish to go and see a football match in London but have failed to stipulate who or where”, I was totally surprise with this statement as I had explained about this in my travel plan, which labelled as Section F in the summary presentation I submitted. In my travel plan, I had stated that during December 2008, I would like to watch a live football match at Emirates stadium. But, with whom I planned to watch the match is very depending because my friends might be free to join me or they might not be free during that time. Nevertheless, I still enjoy watching those matches alone!

Not very convincing for me, I remembered there's an supplementary checklist for WHM, and there's a request for travel plan. Also in the guideline, they mentioned, if not mistaken.

If you have not include a travel plan in your 1st appeal, consider one that shows more plan of travelling in UK, with a good ratio of time and things to see or to do. LESS ON WORK. Regarding Europe, I think better not to mention about checking on cheap flights in your first paragraph, not necessary anyway.
I think the football match of 'who and where' meant the team and location, not to watch with who.

Quote “In addition to this you claim you wan to experience the UK seasons. Apart from this you have provided no new details of how you proposed to spend your time. It is not unreasonable to expect you to have done some research that you may be in fact intending to fund your trips around Europe by working in UK. I am minded that this is not in the spirit of the working holiday scheme and that you may be working for a period of time not incidental to your holiday. I am therefore not satisfied, on the balance of probabilities, that you meet the requirement of paragraph 95 (VI).”

Once again I was surprised with these sentences. In fact, I had submitted detail itineraries for my 1 year UK travel; I had clearly stated where I wish to travel in each particular time. This plan was labelled as Section F in the summary presentation. And, the UK seasons I mentioned is regarding to experience the difference weather in UK as compared to Malaysia, which we do not have seasons changing so obviously. I would like to experience how people change their lifestyles during different seasons in term of their wearing, daily activities, and eating habits and so on.
Considered that I have plan most of my time travel and work around UK. So, there are no reasons for the officer to claim that I intending to fund the trips around Europe by working in UK.

Almost the same as the above statement about Europe. Try not to 'offend' the officers, just state your believe that the amount spent at certain place of UK in relevance to the things you do are adequate, and your intention of traveling Europe is incidental and at most 1 month towards the end of trip blah blah, juz my 2 cents.

Quote “You state that you have various friends who are studying in the UK and that you will stay temporarily with one in particular in London. However you have not provided any evidence of your friends’ willingness to accommodate your stay. I cannot therefore be satisfied that you can be adequately accommodated for the entire duration of your proposed stay in UK.”

Again, I was surprised because I had attached my friend’s invitation letter in Section B. Unfortunately, the officer did not notice it. Besides, I am understood that I may need to attached my friend’s rental agreement or any utilities billings but since I only have 28 days to appeal, so there is time constrain for me to get these documents. But, if there is any query regarding my accommodation in my friend’s place, please feel free to contact my friend, Rachel at 07809157927 and she is very willing to answer.

To be honest, this is absolutely not acceptable. 28 days is enough for you to request your friend to post the documents to you. With the speed of transportation now, I think the most is 1 week by snail mail, but may consider Fedex or what, if you're really serious with that. You're now 'asking' for something, do you think the officer will take the trouble to call our friend? I can tell you NO, not in Malaysia, not in UK, they've plenty to do in a day, and they won't kept trying calling for you. They'll just go through all documents supplied, if complied, they'll approve, that's it.
You just need 1 letter of invitation, and 1 proof of address, and 1 proof of legal status in UK.

At last, I would like to request Sir/Madam to look through my summary presentation carefully as I had try to provided your side with as much information as possible for my application. For your ease, I summarized the summary presentation I had submitted again here:
Section A: Financial evidence of myself and my sponsor in funding my trip
Section B: Evidence of my accommodation in UK, which is my friend’s invitation letter
Section C: My education and working experiences background
Section D: My own property
Section E: Reason for my intention to come back to Malaysia after 1 year
Section F: My UK travel plan

No comment.

In short, check through your grammar and rephrase your sentences to make it short and prescise. Put yourself in the officer's shoes, are you going to be convinced with these?

Hope that helps. No offence if I unintentionally did.

Zawa

1152. Posted by koklin7 (Budding Member 8 posts) 8y

thanks a lot zawa.....u help me a lot.....i try to ammend now...

1153. Posted by travelite8 (Budding Member 62 posts) 8y

Quoting koklin7

thanks a lot zawa.....u help me a lot.....i try to ammend now...

umm.. something to say about the letter..I am SURPRISED the way the letter is written..
sounds like you r blaming the officer for not going through your document thoroughly..try to defend urself in a humble way, you may not think that way though, anyway its only my two pence.. the last part is good, u specify every documents in order.

1154. Posted by Hien (Moderator 3906 posts) 8y

Koklin, remember that you're writing an APPEAL letter for a reconsideration of their decision not to grant you the visa. What you are doing now seems more like a rebuttal to a debate, which this is certainly not. And you're not here to write a letter telling them your how disappointed or surprised you are at them either. You should be disappointed at yourself not being able to convince them, not disappointed/surprised at their decision. They will have no reason to reject you if you did everything right and managed to convince them that you're a genuine working holidaymaker. But you failed to do so.

Discard what you've written. Write a fresh one. Be truthful. Compare your second application with your first one and explain why you made the changes. Fix your travel plan. Clarify, not complain, to them whatever incorrect comments you think they made in their rejection letter. Last but not least, be polite in your tone and be sincere, as you are making an appeal! If you cannot even do that, then you deserve to be rejected if they are still not convinced, which I won't be surprised.

You're here to fix a situation, not making it worse.

1155. Posted by esthernity (Budding Member 19 posts) 8y

Quoting simonwong

hii to those looking for job in UK,

I am quite lucky that my friend recommended a waiter job in a chinese restaurant upon arriving, with food and accomodation provided. and the paid is quite satisfying. They are alot ppl who 'jump aeroplane' prefer to work in the restaurant, reli can make money. I had been working for a month plus... but it is so damm tiring especially on Sat and Sun. and the working hour is quite long from 11.45am to about 12pm with 2 hours break on weekday and 1 hour plus on weekend. Mucles and bones are breaking and in optimum limit. I am totally exhausted...

i am still looking for other admin job but currently is summer holiday. A lot of temporary and part time admin job are being taken by the undergraduates. The situation will be better in Setember when the school reopen that time.

if you can take the challenge, just drop by the chinese restaurant and ask for the job. I think the chances will be higher in big city as we are holding the working visa and most of the owners do not dare to take the risk to take illegal workers. And I heard that there will be an operation to catch the illiegal workes beginning in October... I think currently there will be alot job availability in this line.....

All the best to all the job seekers :)

Simon,

where u reside now?
i find lots of job as they require certificate which i don't have.
btw my skills is not very relevant to what they want as most of them need experience in catering equipment and aerospace environment.
me here not much jobs because just a small town and not much chances and choice.
i just got a part time job in Sunderland stadium as a kiosk staff and trying to search for manufacturing and warehouse.
Labourer also need specific requirement. really s*ck...

1156. Posted by zawa (Budding Member 31 posts) 8y

Koklin,

Travelite8 and Hien was right, and I forgot to mention about your letter being likely harsh for the officers. Do consider to apologize for insufficient documents and confusion over your previous statements, and any inconvenience caused.
Remember to be humble.

Gambate.

Zawa

1157. Posted by simonwong (Budding Member 46 posts) 8y

Simon,

where u reside now?
i find lots of job as they require certificate which i don't have.
btw my skills is not very relevant to what they want as most of them need experience in catering equipment and aerospace environment.
me here not much jobs because just a small town and not much chances and choice.
i just got a part time job in Sunderland stadium as a kiosk staff and trying to search for manufacturing and warehouse.
Labourer also need specific requirement. really s*ck...

I am nw in Harrow.

why not try restaurant job? just drop by and ask....
if you knw chinese it will be greater advantage if you go for chinese restaurant

all the best...

1158. Posted by lngyn (Budding Member 20 posts) 8y

Hi guys... I have a question... The travel itinerary and other documents that i prepared for submission is like about 30pages thick... Can i know if it is alright to bind it like a book so it is easier for the ECO to read. You know like when we were in Uni, when we have assignment then we just make it like a folio or something?

Oopss.. i have another question. I need to get down at Ampang Park Putra Station to head to VFS right? Anyone know how long is the walking distance from the station to VFS Office at Wisma MCA? Sorry.. I am from outside KL, Melaka to be precise..hehe...

Thank You.

1159. Posted by carrinz (Budding Member 20 posts) 8y

Quoting lngyn

Hi guys... I have a question... The travel itinerary and other documents that i prepared for submission is like about 30pages thick... Can i know if it is alright to bind it like a book so it is easier for the ECO to read. You know like when we were in Uni, when we have assignment then we just make it like a folio or something?

Oopss.. i have another question. I need to get down at Ampang Park Putra Station to head to VFS right? Anyone know how long is the walking distance from the station to VFS Office at Wisma MCA? Sorry.. I am from outside KL, Melaka to be precise..hehe...

Thank You.

Hi lngyn, to answer ur questions:
1) Can i know if it is alright to bind it like a book so it is easier for the ECO to read.?
- NO, because they will arrange it in a particular way which is easy for their reference. Also, some of the items that u submit may not be relevant, so they will put it aside. They will ask u for documents 1 by 1, so just give them what they asked for.

2) I need to get down at Ampang Park Putra Station to head to VFS right? Anyone know how long is the walking distance from the station to VFS Office at Wisma MCA?
- Yes. Get down and then look for the exit for Hotel Nikko. Then u will see Citibank building. MCA building is after Citibank.

Good luck!!

1160. Posted by snowmanb (Budding Member 14 posts) 8y

hey u job hunters,don't give up!they r jobs in uk,keep looking.and i think stayin in small towns is not right.the smaller the harder.pipo fear london coz it;s expensive but i think it's the place to be!it's expensive but thay pay you more,i mean logical........most pipo in london r tourists and they don't need jobs.so u have a lot of jobs erally.but if u go to small town,all pipo there r comin' to stay n need work.i think u should try london.i got a job the second day i arrived in london on an open day!!!!!!!!!!