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781. Posted by 2004ts (Budding Member 31 posts) 8y

Quoting wws1218

wondering if anyone leaving to UK on this 6th of may? coz im alone~

i'm landing in London next week. Cheers!

Anyone else leaving to UK this month?

782. Posted by yingtey (Budding Member 12 posts) 8y

Hi there,

Thank you so much for replying to me! I was really freaking out after reading all the threads on this visa. According to my friends, none of them had to undergo an interview and so I thought it was a piece of cake. But seems like it's a serious matter though. What did they ask you other than the usual what you want to do and where you want to go? What if you cannot remember all the names of the places or the places you want to visit in a chronological order (As in your travel plan)...will they be unconvinced? I consider myself a savvy traveller, and having done a lot of places, I don't like an itinerary actually-but seems like they find it quite it important. Did they ask you about the jobs you'd do? What else will they belasah you about, other than travel plans?

Thanks for giving me back the confidence. I don't think I can sleep up till the interview date!!!!!

Crossing fingers
ying

783. Posted by yingtey (Budding Member 12 posts) 8y

Okay,

My insecurity instincts are kicking in. May I also ask what are the chances of rejection during an interview? I guess it's a pretty generic question...and I don't really know why I'm asked for the interview. But it could possibly be my travel plan and that I've included a bunch of other EU countries (without knowing that I shouldn't-like Taigra)...but now, if I have spout a completely different travel plan-will I be lambasted for it? What if I said, okay, forget about Spain, Portugal and scandinavia, as per written on my travel plan, would they kick me for going against my initial travel plan? Will they actually compare my travel plan word to word or how is it like? Can someone give me a rough idea of the interview (more recent updates since I think they may have changed their policies over the year)?

Cheers,
Ying

784. Posted by 2004ts (Budding Member 31 posts) 8y

Quoting yingtey

Hi there,

Thank you so much for replying to me! I was really freaking out after reading all the threads on this visa. According to my friends, none of them had to undergo an interview and so I thought it was a piece of cake. But seems like it's a serious matter though. What did they ask you other than the usual what you want to do and where you want to go? What if you cannot remember all the names of the places or the places you want to visit in a chronological order (As in your travel plan)...will they be unconvinced? I consider myself a savvy traveller, and having done a lot of places, I don't like an itinerary actually-but seems like they find it quite it important. Did they ask you about the jobs you'd do? What else will they belasah you about, other than travel plans?

Thanks for giving me back the confidence. I don't think I can sleep up till the interview date!!!!!

Crossing fingers
ying

well, hope that I didn't freak you out till can't sleep at night. chill out. as long u know what u write in ur travel plan. it should be ok. no worries. it's just a plan. u r not going for an exam. as long u know where u wanna go.

the main aim during the inteview is to convince and tell the interviewer :

"Yes, I genuinely want to go to UK for travelling"
"I have the passion & interest in UK"

working & EU trip is something optional but not the main purpose. better avoid to give any clear idea about job and EU trip. tee gong lo.

I kena taruh by "shooting out" say that i want to go Liverpool, manchester, ..bla. bla.. all the english league thing.. can't remember what i write in the plan.

785. Posted by yingtey (Budding Member 12 posts) 8y

You've been really helpful. Well, can I print out my travel plan and bring it with me that day itself? And also did you remember all the places of attraction that you mentioned...like uh, I wanna visit Warwick castle, hadrian wall , brighton beach, northern islands....etc.?

I'm totally a football noob so i can't forget about sprouting out those EPL stuff, but I'm a bit of a cultural and literature fan-but of course none of these were mentioned in my travel plan. is it too late to convince them?

is it okay that i want to pick up a course too (those short term ones?)

wish me luck! and have fun in UK.

just in case you don't know, there's this website called: www.couchsurfing.com where you can bunk in with locals for free...it's really fun. i used it in europe and south east asia...works well for budget travellers!

and btw-i'm a typical backpacker...is it okay if i mention it?

ying

786. Posted by popcornpop (Budding Member 10 posts) 8y

Hi all,

This is definitely a great place to dig for info for those who wish to apply for WHM to the UK. And I've been following the thread myself to come up with my writeup and stuffs that I needed to apply.

However, my application has been rejected. I was given the following reasons:
1. my documentation did not state how long the fixed deposit from my sponsor (my mom) has been held
2. I failed to provide any other evidence of her financial circumstances that could convince the ECO that this sponsorship commensurate with my mom's overall financial circumstances
3. referring to the above, that the fund was genuinely available to me
4. ECO is not satisfied that I'm intending to take employment incidental to a holiday
5. that you intend to leave the UK at the end of this holiday

So, I was hoping someone could tell me what sort of documentation I need to show the duration of the fixed deposit and how many years do I need to show?

Secondly, I told the ECO that it was my dream to try to take employment from a certain MNC because I've always wanted to do it but I didn't mean to overstay my WHM visa even if I did get a job in the said MNC. (MNC = multinational corporation) I will return to Malaysia but I just wanted to have the experience of working in that particular MNC - think Google cult - but this is not Google .

Thirdly, I definitely didn't mean to overstay and work illegally because I wouldn't want to be stripped of my chances of going to the UK again in future. And the reasons why I'm leaving my current job to go to the UK are because I have the following conditions met at the present time:
- my bf is in the UK so I've been offered to stay at his place during my holiday thus my accommodation is taken care of.
- I'm tired of working in the same company so I want to move on and take a long break. I didn't want to just jump to another company cos that would upset my boss who would make me feel like I betrayed them :|
- I'm hoping I would do something different in the UK so I could use the experience when I return to MY
- that I really want to take a long break to travel extensively in the UK - I've been there twice but it's never enough :D
- even if I wanted to stay, there could be only two possible options - settlement or working visa. I will still need to return to MY to do my future application so I don't understand why the ECO didn't see this.
- my mom borrowed me the fund from on her savings of many years from different accounts, from us kids who give her money sometimes, and from my bro who gives her money to take care of his son. How the hell I'm supposed to show this :(

What I've experienced during my interview was that she really mocked you to the edge. I dressed smart casually but I still looked like a would-be illegal immigrant because of my circumstances above (bf in UK, thought my mom couldn't loan me the money, desperation etc etc). I even tried to tell her that I really wanted to do this as a long break to travel but she failed to see it; she sneered :(. So I was really upset with the outcome and even more crushed by her reasons.

I just hope someone could help me now so I could start to write something to appeal. I was thinking of taking an oath to swear that I would return but that wouldn't really counter the "balance of possibilities" of my intention to leave at the end of my visa term, would it? I dunno, I'm really disappointed. But I want to counter her reasons cos they felt like a personal insult to me.

And advice to all, be prepared for extreme mockery during the interview. My interview was a bitch .

Pls help. Thanks.
p/s: sorry for the long post lol

[ Edit: Edited on May 3, 2008, at 12:10 AM by popcornie ]

787. Posted by yingtey (Budding Member 12 posts) 8y

Oh dear, popcornie. I'm sorry to hear about your situation. She actually sneered?????? May I know when was your interview held? A couple of days ago?

788. Posted by IreneCNova (Budding Member 7 posts) 8y

Hi,

Anybody there leaving to UK, London on 11th May via SIN?

789. Posted by popcornpop (Budding Member 10 posts) 8y

Quoting yingtey

Oh dear, popcornie. I'm sorry to hear about your situation. She actually sneered?????? May I know when was your interview held? A couple of days ago?

If you didn't read her expression for one second you could have missed it. She was browsing through my papers during the interview when I was looking up for a particular details that she had requested for me to sift through my documents.

All I know is if one has come out from the interview booth, and has to wait more than 15-30 minutes or so, the chances are he/she will get the brown paper envelope of despair. The ECO takes that amount of time to process what had to be written on the refusal printout along with construction of their strings of reasons that led to their decision. If you were called after 10 minutes after your interview into the same booth, you're lucky.

I had my interview just a few days ago.

I was quite unlucky I guessed that it had to be the lady. Anyway, once she had made up her decision before she asked, "Do you have anything to add to this interview?", don't try answer something that sounds superficial like showing your enthusiasm. She clearly didn't want to hear any bs like that. I also didn't know what would be an ideal answer to that. I wished I'd just say, "Nothing", thank her and go out. You don't have to take any shit from ECO like her.

Sorry.

790. Posted by popcornpop (Budding Member 10 posts) 8y

Quoting yingtey

Okay,

My insecurity instincts are kicking in. May I also ask what are the chances of rejection during an interview? I guess it's a pretty generic question...and I don't really know why I'm asked for the interview. But it could possibly be my travel plan and that I've included a bunch of other EU countries (without knowing that I shouldn't-like Taigra)...but now, if I have spout a completely different travel plan-will I be lambasted for it? What if I said, okay, forget about Spain, Portugal and scandinavia, as per written on my travel plan, would they kick me for going against my initial travel plan? Will they actually compare my travel plan word to word or how is it like? Can someone give me a rough idea of the interview (more recent updates since I think they may have changed their policies over the year)?

Cheers,
Ying

Dear Ying,

I actually thought that I was called for an interview because I thought they wanted to see the original copy of my letter of invitation, passport photocopy and mortgage statement (photocopy). I printed out these scanned-then-emailed documents cos they didn't manage to reach me in time from the UK. Looks like it wasn't about these scanned printouts.

It was my fund sponsor's origin of fund. Which I failed to produce the bank receipts/slips that they were withdrawn from a FD that my mom had. So if you have someone sponsoring you, you might need to ask a little more favor by asking them to loan you their original bank account books/statements so that you'd cover your bases in terms of origin of fund when they ask.

And I also printed a list of websites that I've been sifting through for info while preparing my travel plan. The ECO just took a glance at it and she said she'd make a note that she has seen it. Which means completely useless to my case lol.

And she will ask generic questions such as, "What is your travel plan in the UK". You just have to tell her a couple of places that you would like to go to, like one of the guys mentioned in earlier posts, small towns. If the ECO is not interested to go into length, then she'd proceed to the next question. I told her that I'm interested to go on National Trail routes and I mentioned a couple of small cities that these routes will pass by so I got through that question.

And no, they won't go word by word. Mine didn't. I can't be sure if they even read it before or after your interview just to cross check your answers. But I do think they've read it at some point.

If you worry that you might get refused for mentioning other countries in your travel plan, perhaps you should create a new one which has more emphasis on the UK itself. Print it out and bring it with you to produce it as additional supporting documents to what you've submitted. Do tell the ECO that you've amended your travel plan. At least they would acknowledge that they have taken a look (more like a glance) at it. You will need to come up with a reason why you are preparing a new set of travel plan though.

Whatever documents that you think were insufficient to counter the balance of possibilities (of abusing the visa), make sure you have them (originals if possible) and hand them over when they requested at the beginning of the interview.

Just to give you tips on what to expect when you're there:

- You'd be screened and requested to leave your turned-off mobile and IC at the security.
- You'd be given a tag which you'd be told to pass it to the counter housed in right side of the building.
- You'd be waiting for a while for your interview time in a white, minimalist interior with a PA system that calls up applicant names.
- There will be a sliding door to each booth which when opens, the ECO is sitting behind the glass with a PC.
- These booths are not entirely soundproof and you could sometimes catch some words the applicants said if they raised their voice.
- The ECO will appear as though he/she is your clerk when they typed your answers into their screen
- Just be honest.
- Don't panic.
- Don't be too apologetic for causing the mess on their desk when they were looking for a certain documents behind the pile of your submitted documents cos they would get irritated even more. Mine actually retorted something like this, "Well, don't be sorry to me. This is not my application. It's your application." Anyway, if they are disorganised, it's their fault. Not yours.
- Dress smart. At least a shirt like you're going for a semi-formal interview.
- Be calm and composed.
- You can anticipate almost all the list of questions that will be asked which were posted on page 71 (http://www.travellerspoint.com/forum.cfm?thread=33395&start=701). So just prepare the answers mentally. Not all questions were asked during mine though.

Wish you best of luck.

[ Edit: Edited on May 3, 2008, at 9:30 AM by popcornie ]

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