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1. Posted by Nick_Tpkyo (Budding Member 2 posts) 9y

Hi,
I am planning to take my wife and two boys (8 and 12) to Swiss, Italy and Denmark. Would love to travel on a top class night train between these destinations....a sort of dream trip for us to ride on a hotel-train night train etc etc....does anyone have any good ideas or advice on what trains could be good.....!!
Regards,
Nick from Tokyo

2. Posted by djiboutici (Full Member 465 posts) 9y

:)Hi,this is Bilan,

May i suggest:www.raileurope.co.uk
www.eurostar.com

Try these websites and if you need any more infos,get back to me....

Good Luck,And Happy Travels,

3. Posted by Nick_Tpkyo (Budding Member 2 posts) 9y

will check out; thanks so much....

4. Posted by bentivogli (Travel Guru 2398 posts) 9y

There's not much left of the once so proud railroad history of Europe, I'm afraid. On the itineraries you mention, the best you could get are normal night trains, which do have 1st class compartments, but that's incredibly expensive, and still nothing like Orient Express luxury.

Also, truly long-distance train traffic is getting increasingly scarce. The furthest you can get in one go is Copenhagen - Munich (EuroNight 483, run by Deutsche Bahn), but there you'd REALLY have to change trains. Same for Milan - Naples (ES 9447, run by FdS), which is about the longest uninterrupted train journey you can make in Italy.

[ Edit: Edited on Jan 15, 2007, at 7:07 AM by bentivogli ]

5. Posted by Gelli (Travel Guru 2457 posts) 9y

There are still some very high standard hotel trains between France and Italy and Spain and Italy/Switzerland/France. There are also some refurbished sleeping cars on certain German journeys which are more than fancy enough. Admittedly, that doesn't help much with the 3 countries that you list.

Same for Milan - Naples (ES 9447, run by FdS), which is about the longest uninterrupted train journey you can make in Italy.

Thats not entirely correct. There are still some long night journeys in Italy, and it's possible to get through Night trains [leaving in late afternoon/early eve and arrive around 11 the next morning] from Palermo and Catania to most major cities, including Milano, Torino and Venezia. It is generally quicker to take Night trains from Sicilly as far as Napoli or Roma and change there for a high speed Eurostar Italia train onwards, but the through options do exist [including a short ferry ride].

The furthest you can get in one go is Copenhagen - Munich (EuroNight 483, run by Deutsche Bahn)

You can get a direct night train from Basel to Copenhagen (it joins the Munich and, later, Cologne/Ruhr trains so they all arrive as one). Having said that, this portion is the one most liable to be removed - it tends to come and go in different guises every couple of years - although at present it is a higher class CNL ranked portion with the sleeping car being as close to hotel standard as you are likely to get in the 3 countries you mention.

The furthest you can get in one go is Copenhagen - Munich

There are still a (admittedly ever decreasing) number of Night trains which run significantly further than the Kbh - Munich trun, although none of them are particularly useful to your specific trip.

6. Posted by t_maia (Travel Guru 3289 posts) 9y

Quoting Gelli

There are still a (admittedly ever decreasing) number of Night trains which run significantly further than the Kbh - Munich train

Berlin-Moscow anyone? Or Budapest-Moscow? Budapest-Berlin? Dortmund-Vienna? Munich-Zagreb?

7. Posted by bentivogli (Travel Guru 2398 posts) 9y

When I said longest in one go, I only included itineraries relevant to his journey, obviously.

Btw, I too intend to do Berlin-Moscow one day, Maia. Anyone has any experiences?

[ Edit: Edited on Jan 17, 2007, at 3:36 AM by bentivogli ]

8. Posted by bentivogli (Travel Guru 2398 posts) 9y

Quoting Gelli

There are still some long night journeys in Italy, and it's possible to get through Night trains [leaving in late afternoon/early eve and arrive around 11 the next morning] from Palermo and Catania to most major cities, including Milano, Torino and Venezia.

According to my information (which admittedly is about a year old), the direct service from Catania to Milan has been suspended, or rather cut in two; now a change of trains in Rome (Roma Tiburtina) is mandatory. Can anyone corroborrate either my or Gelli's story? Thanks!