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11. Posted by Pardus (Respected Member 2356 posts) 9y

Quoting wouterrr

Quoting mikeyBoab

The earth goes through periodic warming spells, this "global warming" phenonmenon might not last very long.

Are you serieus or is this another funny joke of yours

Mikey's real name is Treebeard and he's 5000 years old... Harummm...

12. Posted by PirateDani (Budding Member 153 posts) 9y

the global warming you are talking about does NOT take into account all the carbon emmissions and polloution that humans are pumping into the atmosphere.

The 'theory' behind global climate cycle is earth warms, water evaporates into atmosphere, creates reflective blanket, earth cools (ice age), water condenses, back on earth, earth starts warming up again and the whole thing starts again.

13. Posted by wouterrr (Travel Guru 3379 posts) 9y

This is definitly not one of the periodic warming spells. Like there have been tropical and ice era's. The last thirty years the temperature line got steep into the air. That is al because the greenhouse we changed our earth into....

[ Edit: Edited on Jan 19, 2007, at 6:01 AM by wouterrr ]

14. Posted by wouterrr (Travel Guru 3379 posts) 9y

Quoting Pardus

Mikey's real name is Treebeard and he's 5000 years old... Harummm...

Mikey's real name is Nostradame....

15. Posted by Isadora (Travel Guru 13926 posts) 9y

Global warming and a very strong El Nino are the explanations being reported for our very odd weather this year. I think the earth finally decided we needed a kick in the ass since gentle nudging wasn't getting our attention. It will be interesting to see if areas that have been experiencing severe droughts for long periods will actually get rain and relief. (It could happen...)

(I clicked on a link, through NOAA, that was to give me an explanation of El Nino and was redirected to the Australian EFTel website. I can have unlimited broadband for only $39.95/month. How much is that in USD? It might be worth contacting them. I'm blaming global warming for the redirect too.)

16. Posted by Pardus (Respected Member 2356 posts) 9y

Quoting Isadora

(I clicked on a link, through NOAA, that was to give me an explanation of El Nino and was redirected to the Australian EFTel website. I can have unlimited broadband for only $39.95/month. How much is that in USD? It might be worth contacting them. I'm blaming global warming for the redirect too.)

With the current administration's performance and its effect on the dollar I'd reckon about 500 USD...

17. Posted by Utrecht (Moderator 5596 posts) 9y

Quoting koalabear

It was snowing in scotland today and down the south of england the weather has been really windy and people have been killed with falling trees and stuff, Global Warming here it comes

Agree considering heat in July and major downpours in August. But stormy weather really is just on a regular bases for ages.

18. Posted by Clarabell (Travel Guru 1696 posts) 9y

Its not just the storms though, it has hardly got cold at all this winter here in the UK. There was a thick frost the week before Christmas, but its not dropped below about 5C since. Its just been very very rainy. I've been wandering about without a coat. I know it could still get cold (last year we had snow in April) but I don't recall a winter this mild. The weather is definatly going weird.

19. Posted by Clarabell (Travel Guru 1696 posts) 9y

The other thing about the weather, is that there's a lot more going on than just the greenhouse effect causing the earth to heat up. That's why in recent years the term "Climate change" is being used, because its a fact, and a problem regardless of the cause. We know for a fact that the ice-caps are melting, and there are so many results that that could have, for example switching off the gulf stream, the warm ocean current which is the only thing stopping Britain and Ireland being as cold as other countries on the same latitude.

And think of the poor polar bears.

[ Edit: Edited on Jan 19, 2007, at 10:25 AM by Clarabell ]

20. Posted by wouterrr (Travel Guru 3379 posts) 9y

Quoting Clarabell

The other thing about the weather, is that there's a lot more going on than just the greenhouse effect causing the earth to heat up. That's why in recent years the term "Climate change" is being used, because its a fact, and a problem regardless of the cause. We know for a fact that the ice-caps are melting, and there are so many results that that could have, for example switching off the gulf stream, the warm ocean current which is the only thing stopping Britain and Ireland being as cold as other countries on the same latitude.

What more do you think is happening, Clarabell? All the things you mentioned are caused by the greenhouse effect. This is also called global warming because heat get's absorbed in higher air layers by so called greenhouse gasses (such as CO2, N2, NO3, NH3 expelled by traffic, industry and agriculture (from manure)). The heat can't escape the earth's athmosphere and in fact bounces back to the earth's surface. Causing the global warming. See greenhouse gasses as a blanket in the air around the earth whichs blocks heat. This is why ice-caps are melting and certain areas get warmer. This has also its effect on local animals and vegitation (like polar-bears in Antarctica). Also there will be more water because meltwater is coming down from the mountains. Causing many rivers to go beyond capacity. More water also in the oceans because of the melting of ice-caps. To make things worse. Water will expand when it heats up, which is a problem for lowlands near the sea (like Bangladesh, Louisiana (US), the Netherlands, Somalia).

The other problem you are reffering to is probably the hole in the ozone layer. This is caused by certain gasses but mainly CFC from spraycans (which is now forbidden by most countries). There is big hole above the south-pole at the moment. The ozonelayer absorbes the biological very harmfull ultraviolet (UV) radiation. If the hole get's bigger there will be serious risk of increased genetic damage to living organisms. It takes approximately 50 years until all CFC in the athmosphere has biodegraded. Scientists think that the hole will be gone by 2050.

[ Edit: Edited on Jan 20, 2007, at 6:33 AM by wouterrr ]