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11. Posted by marlis (Travel Guru 1167 posts) 9y

the end of the road means for me when I die,not befor!.
Life has many roads you can take,or just little path but it is always up to you what direction you take at the crossing.
(I wish I could explain it better)
It is like gambling,you may be lucky,nobody knows,you have to take the risk,nobody can give you the perfect advice for your future,you are alone responsible .
Life has his up's and downs,we may learn from it,can get stronger and move to another challange.
Life is not boring if you open your eyes,it is up to you to make it special,dont acspect that other people make your life interesting.(what ever this means)
Think positiv!
sunny greetings to everybody
Marlis:)

12. Posted by Mel. (Travel Guru 4567 posts) 9y

Hello Ahila

I found out, when working, that working actually gives me very little satisfaction. Managers dont seem to feel comfortable trusting their staff. Therefore, i never got to work to my full potential. They did over time develop more trust in me, but still was not as much as I think it should have been.
I had this experience with 2 different companies.

I think the thing to do, when this happens, is to take what u can from the work situation and put more energy into other areas of your life. Work for the money, and do something with it, that fulfills u more.

Mel

13. Posted by Ahila (Inactive 1529 posts) 9y

Quoting marlis

the end of the road means for me when I die,not befor!.
Life has many roads you can take,or just little path but it is always up to you what direction you take at the crossing.
(I wish I could explain it better)

Life is not boring if you open your eyes,it is up to you to make it special,dont acspect that other people make your life interesting.(what ever this means)
Think positiv!
sunny greetings to everybody
Marlis:)

Hi Marlis,
A cool evening greeting to you...

If you don't mind the following questions: Were you in a different profession before you started your own sail and canvas shop? Was it your dream? Have you found it fulfilling? What do you find fulfilling about being your own employer?

You don't have to answer any of the above, if you don't want to.. I am just interested to know whether being self-employed does indeed provide one with more satisfaction/ fulfillment in their work than those employed under a institution/ others.

Cheers,
Ahila.

P.S: You did explain the various choices/roads that one has in life well. My personal view of life is that there are an infinite range of permutations of the choices one can make in time and we are, as you say, indeed responsible for the road we chose to traverse as we always have a choice to choose another road. At times, it can be difficult to make the decision though to turn away. As Tway put it nicely earlier, one needs to give a path some time before one can give up, otherwise one may never know the satisfaction of achievement.

[ Edit: Edited on Jan 26, 2007, at 6:17 AM by Ahila ]

14. Posted by Ahila (Inactive 1529 posts) 9y

Quoting Mel.

I found out, when working, that working actually gives me very little satisfaction.

I think the thing to do, when this happens, is to take what u can from the work situation and put more energy into other areas of your life. Work for the money, and do something with it, that fulfills u more.

Mel

That is a pretty wise decision to make... put up with stress for the money that will allow you to do something that will fulfill you as a person. Like travelling.

Didn't you find it difficult to however put up with the unpleasant work environment and did you find that the pleasure you derived from spending the money on something you enjoyed outweighed the stress/harassment at work?

15. Posted by Mel. (Travel Guru 4567 posts) 9y

Hello Ahila

I am not sure, if i found it worth putting up with the terrible environment or not.
What i did, was make the best of a bad situation. Good companies exist, but I think they are few and far between. So no point in just moving to another one.

When I had a baby, I decided that looking after her, and developing other areas of my life was and is more worthwhile, than spending 9 hours everyday at work. My boyfriend works, so I dont really need to, if we are careful, with our money.

I would suggest to anybody with the work situation u are describing, that they do their best at work, have a balanced life, and look out for other ways they can enhance their lives to make them more fulfulling, so they dont depend on work so much, for this. Also, if the company has a bad reputation, maybe a different company would improve things. But dont just move, to any other company.

Mel

[ Edit: Edited on Jan 26, 2007, at 8:55 AM by Mel. ]

16. Posted by marlis (Travel Guru 1167 posts) 9y

Hi Ahila,
I dont mind to answer your Questions.some years before I left Germany
I was a freelance Fotografer for a big company specialized in school and kindergarten fotografie wich gave me enough time to do weddings
and so on.before I was working at different foto studios but only changed my workplace when I got a better position,never changed only for the money.
Sewing was a hobby,designing my own dresses,was never dreaming that I will end up on a small Island sitting behind a industrial sewing maschine.I packed all my foto equippment in the container in case that I could open a small studio,but found out there was not enough business to survive,so I never unpacked the boxes.
So I started to do repairs and new things for the boats but realized fast that this is not what I would only do for ever,I missed the creative part,but needed(still do)the "boring"jobs to afford the beautyful creativ one.
I designed my first divebag for a friend,then for his wife and then one day the owner of the diveshop offered me to sell the bags in his shop.
Bingo!I still enjoy making this bags,it is never boring.
year after year I have expanded my little business,selling Items I bring home from my trips to South America,
.this is for me the best combination,travelling and searching for nice handcrafted things no other shop has.I have many clients who come every year for diving and the visit me and my shop and they like it that I have different and unique items to offer.
Means to me that I have choosen the right way.I love it to be my own boss with all the ups and downs,I'm proud about my self,that I made it,that I'm independed,yesI'm happy.
sunny Greetings
Marlis:)

17. Posted by Ahila (Inactive 1529 posts) 9y

Quoting marlis

Hi Ahila,
I dont mind to answer your Questions.some years before I left Germany
I was a freelance Fotografer for a big company specialized in school and kindergarten fotografie wich gave me enough time to do weddings
and so on.before I was working at different foto studios but only changed my workplace when I got a better position,never changed only for the money.
Sewing was a hobby,designing my own dresses,was never dreaming that I will end up on a small Island sitting behind a industrial sewing maschine.I packed all my foto equippment in the container in case that I could open a small studio,but found out there was not enough business to survive,so I never unpacked the boxes.
So I started to do repairs and new things for the boats but realized fast that this is not what I would only do for ever,I missed the creative part,but needed(still do)the "boring"jobs to afford the beautyful creativ one.
I designed my first divebag for a friend,then for his wife and then one day the owner of the diveshop offered me to sell the bags in his shop.
Bingo!I still enjoy making this bags,it is never boring.
year after year I have expanded my little business,selling Items I bring home from my trips to South America,
.this is for me the best combination,travelling and searching for nice handcrafted things no other shop has.I have many clients who come every year for diving and the visit me and my shop and they like it that I have different and unique items to offer.
Means to me that I have choosen the right way.I love it to be my own boss with all the ups and downs,I'm proud about my self,that I made it,that I'm independed,yesI'm happy.
sunny Greetings
Marlis:)

Hi Marlis,
Thanks for sharing your interesting career experience. I am always happy to hear if anyone has followed their dreams, planned or unplanned, and especially if they have started from scratch as their own employer. Congratulations! And, you have found yourself such an interesting career... Whenever I have thought of being my own employer and looked at my interests for starting up my own business, I have toyed with the idea of setting up my own bookstore but the competition is too much, in the limited market here that I have been reluctant. Also, from my childhood, I grew up in a travelling environment with my family moving around a lot that I need to move after every couple of years. So, I couldn't really combine both.

In retrospective, I guess I am where I want to be: currently working in a development agency that works with economic recovery of people living below the poverty line in conflict-affected areas and I also travel a lot to these areas and I enjoy learning more about the people and the places (I get a fresh perspective of my own country each time I go). I really cannot think of any other career that I could/would choose. That said, I think there is nothing that can beat being your own employer and being independent.

Take care & I hope I do get to visit you in Bonaire one day,
Ahila.

18. Posted by Ahila (Inactive 1529 posts) 9y

Quoting Mel.

I am not sure, if i found it worth putting up with the terrible environment or not.
What i did, was make the best of a bad situation. Good companies exist, but I think they are few and far between. So no point in just moving to another one.

Mel, I have come to that realization of late. I guess it is too idealistic to expect a good work-environment, especially good management. I have worked in about 6 different work-places to-date: two schools during and between my university years, a brief internship at a govt. run institution, three development agencies, including a volunteering one. Initially, though I observed the internal politics that seemed to exist in each in different forms, I wasn't bothered as I was still a student and I knew it was short-term employment for a living and it was easier to stay away from the unpleasantness. Gradually, as the type of work evolved and moved to more fixed term employment where you invest more time and energy and are part of the team, contributing to making the organization, and you start examing your work-environment and realise it is not ideal.. not even ideal but at times totally unacceptable, it is discouraging. I have come to realise that you could be in your dream job but having an unpleasant work-environment, whether you are directly affected or not, can take away your enjoyment of your work. And yes, moving on is not a solution as the next workplace will probably have its own set of unpleasant working conditions.

I guess finding the balance - keeping work-life distinct from personal and investing your inner self and time in the growth of this personal life is important. Too often, when you become a workaholic and invest almost all your time in your work, it becomes more disappointing. While it is a wise move to keep the areas distinct, as a person who thinks there is always potential for improving the human condition and who likes to analyse human reactions to various scenarios, I am still trying to understand why management is such a critical issue and why is it so difficult to have more of good management and less of bad management, than it is in reality?

Cheers and a good morning to you from Colombo,
Ahila.

19. Posted by Herr Bert (Moderator 1384 posts) 9y

A couple of years ago I worked at a really big company, and it was a bad experience for me. I was than that I decided that working in a huge company, is something that I shouldn't be doing. So I got a job at the local government (about 100 people), this meant working in a smaller and more enjoyable organisation. It liked it at first, but it wasn't a job were I had responsablities, and I was only assigned to a few jobs. After one and a half year I changed it for the same kind of job in a different town. Because it was a really small town, there were not a lot of civil servants in this town, which meant i was the only person doing this job. At first everything was fine and I loved that I could do a lot of things that I couldn't do before, but in the end (after about two years) it was getting boring again. I had seen and done everything this job had to offer, and it didn't gave me any satisfaction to get to work.

About a year ago I met a girl from Spain, that was leaving here for about a year. (at least that was the plan, she returned to Spain after 6 months) She opened my eyes for a lot of things in life, and the other way round. We remain very good friends despite that she lives in Madrid. To make a long story short: because of her I made/had a lot of changes over the last year.

I made the decision to quit my job and to return to my original profession and to start my own business. I am now trying to start my own business as a music manager, and I like what I am doing now. I am confident that I will succeed, because this is what I love to do, but as in every job: there are also things that are boring, but you now I know why, I need to do them.

As I need a few years to have enough business, to make a living, I have to get a job during the coming months (at least for 3 days a week), but I am very picky, and fortunately I am in a position that I can wait until I find a good job.

As far as getting to the end of the road: maybe you are not getting to the end of the road, but you are on the wrong road. Some people stay at their first job, but most people need to have a couple of jobs, to find a job that can make them happy, and other people need to change jobs every 2,3 or 4 years because the challenges, that was there when they started are gone. I wouldn't see that as a bad thing.

I don't agree with Mel completely. I don't think it is good to go to work for the money, and don't care what you are doing. As you are in a job 8 hours for 5 days in a week, it is too big a part of your life, to be unhappy. It also has an effect on the rest of your life. You wake up, not wanting to go to work, and you are most likely getting home tired. I did exactly this the last year I worked for my previous boss, because the working conditions were very good, allowing me to make a lot of trips, but in the end I was getting to depressed with this job to continue, and quit ... a few months earlier than I wanted. (I wanted to built on my own company, while still having this job). But I am happy that I did.

20. Posted by Ahila (Inactive 1529 posts) 9y

Quoting Herr Bert

As far as getting to the end of the road: maybe you are not getting to the end of the road, but you are on the wrong road. Some people stay at their first job, but most people need to have a couple of jobs, to find a job that can make them happy, and other people need to change jobs every 2,3 or 4 years because the challenges, that was there when they started are gone. I wouldn't see that as a bad thing.

Thanks for sharing your experience. Everyone who has responded to this thread have made an insightful observation or two on career paths, besides sharing their personal experiences and I appreciate it very much.

Best wishes and Good Luck with your business in the music industry! :)