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111. Posted by wouterrr (Travel Guru 3379 posts) 9y

Quoting Mel.

Those books(the bible, koran and whatever others) were written by poeple in the first place, who were making up rules, to suit themselves. Or maybe they were writing down stories, from their fantacy world.

Who says this are stories and who says that this the truth. Like I said before. Its the atheist against the rest of the world and visa versa;)

Quoting Mel.

Whichever applies, I dont think what is in these books should be taken seriously. They should be considered to be classic literature only.
I think people became more educated and free thinking and that is what caused them to question religion. I dont think becomming richer has much to do with it.

Classic literature? I wouldn't like to read the bible as literature. It doesn't really appeal as a nice light novel, is it?

If I look at the world in the eyes of god. Then I notice that in the developing countries are more religious people. That is remarkable, isn't it:)

Witches were a thread in that time because they believed and practiced black magic. This was against christian laws during that time. That couldn't be possible in these times because there is freedom of opinion in developed countries.

112. Posted by Isadora (Travel Guru 13926 posts) 9y

Interesting reply...

The Bible may be a series of stories and possibly parables that were handed down from person to person, generation to generation, but there is enough physical evidence to substantiate that certain aspects of the Bible are factual. I am not defending the Bible as absolute truth, but it's not pure fiction either. Classic literature? Maybe. But, it should also be considered a book of history as certain events (such as the flood) can be proven. You have to look at the size of the "civilized" world to realize the flood may not have covered the whole of the earth. That does not mean it did not happen. I do have a problem with the pillar of salt and 700 year old people - but that's just me...

Burning of witches? Classic cases of such behavior are the Salem Town and Salem Village (Massachusetts) Witch Trials of the 1690s. They were, not only politically, but religiously based. Prior to that, you had the Council of Paderborn in the late 700s, the Vikings around 1000 and the Inquisition of Milan during the 1300s. That's just the tip of the iceburg and all were politically and religiously motivated.

In some countires, times have not changed - isn't that what this thread is relatively about?

113. Posted by Mel. (Travel Guru 4567 posts) 9y

Quoting Pardus

Here's an interesting piece of information regarding Atheist. During the 1937 purges in Mongolia 17'000 Buddhist monks were executed or disappeared forever. A figure that amounts to 1.8% of the population at that time. I don't know how high the figures are for China and the Soviet Union but they must be so much higher. So there we have an example for killing in the name of atheism.

If that kinda behaviour is part of being an athiest, I declare myself not to be one. I dont even kill spiders, and I am a vegetarian.

114. Posted by Utrecht (Moderator 5595 posts) 9y

This is pretty interesting stuff in this thread. I am going to add another angle....who is an atheist here?

I am a dedicated one myself......I haven't done anything about it for years

115. Posted by wouterrr (Travel Guru 3379 posts) 9y

Quoting Utrecht

This is pretty interesting stuff in this thread. I am going to add another angle....who is an atheist here?

I am a dedicated one myself......I haven't done anything about it for years

But you did in the past? Holy bean

116. Posted by wouterrr (Travel Guru 3379 posts) 9y

Quoting Isadora

Interesting reply...

Burning of witches? Classic cases of such behavior are the Salem Town and Salem Village (Massachusetts) Witch Trials of the 1690s. They were, not only politically, but religiously based.

This lets me think about that movie (probably the scariest I have seen), the Blair witch project. But I could also be a sissy ofcourse

117. Posted by Isadora (Travel Guru 13926 posts) 9y

Quoting Wﺭﺍﺪﻤﺎﮐﺭ

Quoting Utrecht

This is pretty interesting stuff in this thread. I am going to add another angle....who is an atheist here?

I am a dedicated one myself......I haven't done anything about it for years

But you did in the past? Holy bean

At least you're jacking your own thread... I think a good burning is in order for the infidels...

As a scientist, I'm waiting on proof before declaring myself anything.

118. Posted by wouterrr (Travel Guru 3379 posts) 9y

Quoting Isadora

Quoting Wﺭﺍﺪﻤﺎﮐﺭ

Quoting Utrecht

This is pretty interesting stuff in this thread. I am going to add another angle....who is an atheist here?

I am a dedicated one myself......I haven't done anything about it for years

But you did in the past? Holy bean

At least you're jacking your own thread... I think a good burning is in order for the infidels...

As a scientist, I'm waiting on proof before declaring myself anything.

I am not hijacking my own thread dear Isa. See it as a coffee break during a long day at the office

119. Posted by Isadora (Travel Guru 13926 posts) 9y

Quoting Wﺭﺍﺪﻤﺎﮐﺭ

[quote=Isadora]At least you're jacking your own thread... I think a good burning is in order for the infidels...

I am not hijacking my own thread dear Isa. See it as a coffee break during a long day at the office

Touche, once again!

120. Posted by wouterrr (Travel Guru 3379 posts) 9y

Quoting Herr Bert

Where things really go wrong is, when people make an interpretation of the holy book (that is already filled with mistakes). By making interpretations you will get some groups, that have extreme ideas, and others that have not.

Where the US is different from Europe is that religious groups are better organised, have more money, and are constantly trying to influence politicians, and political parties. I think it is also the political system that makes this possible. (if you are only permited to contribute a 1000 or 2000 euros to a political campaign, it is likely you will have less influence, than if you can donate a million dollars)

very well said, herr bert. you actually confirm my thoughts;)

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