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151. Posted by fuchsinrot (Budding Member 31 posts) 9y

sweetheart ... religion doesnt interfere with the law of the state .... it helps you make the right laws which help the society run in peace and smooth!
u think the state laws are responsible for not properly giving importance to women rights? Islam totally gives all independence and respect to women ... it is the corrupt mind of those who make the laws who dont give these laws much security!
plz dont take religion as just the worship of YOUR god .... it is a lot more .... it is a way of life!

152. Posted by fuchsinrot (Budding Member 31 posts) 9y

and besides .... when a person of a separate faith/belief/religion is living in a country/state of a different faith/belief/religion .... he or she, if does something wrong .... are dealt with/should be dealt with the laws from their faith ...

153. Posted by Mel. (Travel Guru 4567 posts) 9y

Quoting Wﺭﺍﺪﻤﺎﮐﺭ

What is true is the fact that religion is causing a lot of problems in this world. That is why people become atheists, to avoid all this.

Huh??
There are people who were never religious, in the first place.
And I think it is possible for people to become athiests, because religions does not make sense to them, so they simply stop bothering with it.

154. Posted by wouterrr (Travel Guru 3379 posts) 9y

Quoting Mel.

Huh??
There are people who were never religious, in the first place.
And I think it is possible for people to become athiests, because religions does not make sense to them, so they simply stop bothering with it.

You haven't been brought up with some kind of religion? But you apparantly stopped, so there was a moment to choose for you in my opinion. You choosed to be atheist I feel

155. Posted by james (Travel Guru 4136 posts) 9y

Quoting fuchsinrot

sweetheart ... religion doesnt interfere with the law of the state .... it helps you make the right laws which help the society run in peace and smooth!
u think the state laws are responsible for not properly giving importance to women rights? Islam totally gives all independence and respect to women ... it is the corrupt mind of those who make the laws who dont give these laws much security!
plz dont take religion as just the worship of YOUR god .... it is a lot more .... it is a way of life!

Don't make me laugh. Women are treated like second class citizens in strictly Islamic countries. Deny it, or put whatever spin on this you like, but it's the truth.

156. Posted by wouterrr (Travel Guru 3379 posts) 9y

James buddy, that is what the people are doing (the men in Islamic countries in this). Those people have interpreted the koran in a way they want, by repressing women. There is nowhere in the quran that women should be beaten or harrassed. Don't mix human weakness with the words from the Quran, we can all give different interpretations. Those men are abusing in their own advantage...

157. Posted by james (Travel Guru 4136 posts) 9y

Quoting Wﺭﺍﺪﻤﺎﮐﺭ

James buddy, that is what the people are doing (the men in Islamic countries in this). Those people have interpreted the koran in a way they want, by repressing women. There is nowhere in the quran that women should be beaten or harrassed. Don't mix human weakness with the words from the Quran, we can all give different interpretations. Those men are abusing in their own advantage...

Then there is Islam in theory and Islam in practice. I'd say the practice outweighs the theory pretty substantially - in fact to the point where Islam equals subordination of women in most people's minds.

158. Posted by fuchsinrot (Budding Member 31 posts) 9y

yes james .... wouter is right here ..... dont mix words of the Quran with human error .....
how women are in Islamic world is absolutely not how God wants it ... it really is the men opressing us .... nothing more .. Islam does NOT dictate this .... so dont make a laugh abt it ... m not spinning the words here ... thats how it is ....

m living here ... i should know better than you ...

[ Edit: Edited on Feb 8, 2007, at 12:55 AM by fuchsinrot ]

159. Posted by james (Travel Guru 4136 posts) 9y

Quoting fuchsinrot

yes james .... wouter is right here ..... dont mix words of the Quran with human error .....
how women are in Islamic world is absolutely not how God wants it ... it really is the men opressing us .... nothing more .. Islam does NOT dictate this .... so dont make a laugh abt it ... m not spinning the words here ... thats how it is ....

m living here ... i should know better than you ...

But the men who oppress the women; these guys are pretty strict moslems right? Live their lives according the Koran? Do what's right to please Allah?

160. Posted by wouterrr (Travel Guru 3379 posts) 9y

Quoting james

But the men who oppress the women; these guys are pretty strict moslems right? Live their lives according the Koran? Do what's right to please Allah?

Strict muslims doesn't mean good muslims. Remember that Osama is a strict muslim too;).

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