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191. Posted by Mel. (Travel Guru 4567 posts) 9y

Quoting tway

I dunno - sme women have penises. In jars, like.

Do u have one, in a jar, Tway?

192. Posted by tway (Travel Guru 7273 posts) 9y

Quoting Mel.

Quoting tway

I dunno - sme women have penises. In jars, like.

Do u have one, in a jar, Tway?

Totally hypothetical. Plus I haven't unpacked all my boxes yet.

193. Posted by wouterrr (Travel Guru 3379 posts) 9y

Quoting Mel.

Do u have one, in a jar, Tway?

How do u mean in a jar? A penis in a jar? I guess that's a typical feminist joke

194. Posted by tway (Travel Guru 7273 posts) 9y

Quoting Wﺭﺍﺪﻤﺎﮐﺭ

Quoting Mel.

Do u have one, in a jar, Tway?

How do u mean in a jar? A penis in a jar? I guess that's a typical feminist joke

No, no, no. A feminist joke would go something like "I have a penis in a jar. I take it out when the repairman comes to remind him of his collective male responsibility for thousands of years of female repression. Then I kick him in the whatsits and push him down the stairs. Ha ha ha!"

195. Posted by wouterrr (Travel Guru 3379 posts) 9y

Quoting tway

No, no, no. A feminist joke would go something like "I have a penis in a jar. I take it out when the repairman comes to remind him of his collective male responsibility for thousands of years of female repression. Then I kick him in the whatsits and push him down the stairs. Ha ha ha!"

Tina is such a compassionate sweet girl, everyone loves her

196. Posted by Isadora (Travel Guru 13926 posts) 9y

I see that, after the fevered posting frenzy of earlier today, it was, once again, coffeebreak time??? Or is everyone just helping T unpack in hopes she has that jar for show & tell time?

197. Posted by wouterrr (Travel Guru 3379 posts) 9y

Quoting Isadora

I see that, after the fevered posting frenzy of earlier today, it was, once again, coffeebreak time??? Or is everyone just helping T unpack in hopes she has that jar for show & tell time?

Isa today we are involved in an excursion....

But we need to go back to work very soon now;)

198. Posted by james (Travel Guru 4136 posts) 9y

Quoting Wﺭﺍﺪﻤﺎﮐﺭ

Quoting Herr Bert

I don't want to derail this thread, but I do think that homosexuality is wrong on many levels.

As you don't give any argument, I can't make any sensible comment. I hope you know that the love you have for your own partner is a different kind of love, than the love somebody else

James has a lot of loose statements which aren't argumented decently. How can one have a dialog without proper arguments. I can also say whatever I think (without backing that up) but I won't taken seriously.

Wouter, you have more time to contribute to this topic than I have.

You must understand that people can make (what you call loose)statements about what they believe and not have to back them up with arguments. Not everything has to have a deep level of depth and analysis. But if this is what it takes before you take people seriously, then so be it.

You just don't like what I'm saying, so you're going for the "show me your argument" angle. If you agreed with my point of view, it wouldn't be an issue for you. You know this Wouter, but you won't admit it. Not even to yourself.

[ Edit: Edited on Feb 8, 2007, at 12:01 PM by james ]

199. Posted by Mel. (Travel Guru 4567 posts) 9y

Quoting Isadora

Quoting Wﺭﺍﺪﻤﺎﮐﺭ

We should question the religious leaders. I think too that religion is important.

More importantly, shouldn't we be questioning the people who allowed religious leaders to have such power? I am not speaking of politicians, but the congregations who have exalted these leaders to such a point that politicians take notice of their influence on the masses?

We are questioning them.
Around 100 years ago, I dont think a conversation such as this thread contains, would even be considered. The religious leaders were right and that was that. Now that we have more knowledge and education we are questioning them. That is what discussions, like this thread are about. More and more people in society are starting to question the the authority of the religious leaders.

200. Posted by misslissa (Budding Member 5 posts) 9y

Hi there,
Religion is everywhere in US. In the smaller towns religion is as important as it was in Europe in the 19th century. Bush uses christianity to empower his statements (like the crusaders against the islam). According to a documentary I saw that 80 million Americans (US) are Christian fundamentalists. In the US its better not to say that you are an atheist. In Europe that is accepted, it seems that churches in Europe are getting emptier and emptier. While US is full of fundamentalists. Is this healthy?

Cheers and thanks for any reply,

Whatever documentary you watched was grossly misinformed about the religious state in America.

Yes, 84% or around that believes in God. I do not and am one of the 1.5 million atheists in the united states. Coupled with the purely secular and agnostic populations we equal about 41.5 million people.

There are 224,437,959 Christians in the U.S today. 38.8 million are non-religious and secular. The largest denomination (that means the majority of the people (the 224.4 million Christians) are CATHOLIC. They are hardly known for their fundamentalism.

http://www.adherents.com/rel_USA.html#ubiquitous

The fundies you are speaking of are Born Again Christians, Evangelicals and a few other sects that are so small they aren't even worth mentioning. They make up about only 30 million or 10.6 of the population. Atheist, agnostic and secular make up nearly 10 million more than these so called "80 million fundies" you speak of.

Here is there website...
http://home.mtholyoke.edu/~edgoodwi/fundamentalistmovement.html

If you scroll down to the very last bit, it says it right there.

Bush was elected because he was lucky. I knew not one person who wanted him in office and there was more of an uproar here that he was not the right choice for our country. He has been blasted because he was supposed to cater to the religious right (who happens to have a lot of money and can fund campaigns which is why anyone even bothers to listen to them. If you don't do what they want, they moblize every single member they have and in states where the electoral college is swayed very easily, they tend to appease these fundies in hopes of being elected) and then did nothing to forward any of their causes.

The majority of Americans are not fundies. To think that is grossly miseducated and ignorant and a blanketed bias. The Muslim communities are going through this much right now, and it makes me sick to think that there are still people out there who can't see past the rhetoric.

They get the most media, because it makes for good news, not because it is representative of the United States as a whole. The main places where religion is the most prevalent is the bible belt, and very poor rural communities. Our larger cities and suburbs make up the majority of our country. And have become more secular than ever. Or even as others have pointed out to you, religiously diverse. Only in these select and small places are only one religion and one view on life reigns supreme.

I hope you educate yourself much better before you next post.

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