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81. Posted by Isadora (Travel Guru 13926 posts) 9y

Quoting Wﺭﺍﺪﻤﺎﮐﺭ

We should question the religious leaders. I think too that religion is important.

More importantly, shouldn't we be questioning the people who allowed religious leaders to have such power? I am not speaking of politicians, but the congregations who have exalted these leaders to such a point that politicians take notice of their influence on the masses? With "disciple" affluence comes monetary affluence comes political affluence. Should the people allowing such individuals such power not be held accountable?

82. Posted by Herr Bert (Moderator 1384 posts) 9y

@ wouterrr
True, but it was in line, with where this thread was heading.

back to politics and religion, which I think is a wrong idea.

In my opinion religion is of no use to creating a workable society. Saying that the 10 commandments are the bases for written laws is not a very good statement. Every lawmaker that is not religious would come up with the same basic rules, than a lawmaker that is religious in a normal way. That said, you first need to agree upon which are the ten commandments (they tend to be different in Jewish, Catholic and Protestant believes). Also in today's society a couple of these commandments, would never make into the lawbooks nowadays. (keep Sabbath holy, honour your parents, and even adultary)

Where things really go wrong is, when people make an interpretation of the holy book (that is already filled with mistakes). By making interpretations you will get some groups, that have extreme ideas, and others that have not.

In my opinion every group, that is claiming to be the one and only true religion, and try to impose this truth on other people is a threat to people and therefor also for politicians. Every politician will have a background, and it can't be prevented, that these views will color his/her decisions.

Where the US is different from Europe is that religious groups are better organised, have more money, and are constantly trying to influence politicians, and political parties. I think it is also the political system that makes this possible. (if you are only permited to contribute a 1000 or 2000 euros to a political campaign, it is likely you will have less influence, than if you can donate a million dollars)

The fact that gays, lesbians and bisexuals are discriminated by a church that is based on love, is a riddle to me. People in general are focussing way too much on the sexual aspect of a gay or lesbian relationship, but ignore, that these people are in love with eachother. I know it is a problem for a lot of people, that some persons (like the pope) are saying that they are doing something wrong.

[ Edit: Edited on Feb 7, 2007, at 9:49 AM by Herr Bert ]

83. Posted by Q' (Travel Guru 1987 posts) 9y

Oriental Gods are so much more fun....they hand out powers like the ability to change oneself to a housefly.....or into a horse to carry some Monk dude, who's too lazy to walk, around for a few years.

And don't forget the flamming rings you can rollerblade on ! How much more cool is that !! Water into wine....boring....

REPENT NOW !!

84. Posted by Hien (Moderator 3906 posts) 9y

Quoting Q'

Oriental Gods are so much more fun....they hand out powers like the ability to change oneself to a housefly.....or into a horse to carry some Monk dude, who's too lazy to walk, around for a few years.

And don't forget the flamming rings you can rollerblade on ! How much more cool is that !! Water into wine....boring....

REPENT NOW !!

Agree! It's never too late to repent.

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88. Posted by Q' (Travel Guru 1987 posts) 9y

And let's not forget one other important consideration......FASHION....
Rough cotton ? Dude !!.....your average Oriental diety (or person of worship) is sporting the finest silk duds and gold gilded....well everything....That stuff's expensive you know !! Ever consider why silk is only used for your undies ?!?! Huh ? Huh ?....you know it....

Who do you think is gettin' invites to all the cool parties ?
Who do you think the bouncer is turning away ?

REPENT NOW !!

89. Posted by wouterrr (Travel Guru 3379 posts) 9y

Quoting beerman

And Mel, men are superior because we have the penises.....it's a proven fact, we have the penises........

Kris. I realize that is true, are you a prophet?

[ Edit: Edited on Feb 7, 2007, at 10:34 AM by Wﺭﺍﺪﻤﺎﮐﺭ ]

90. Posted by tway (Travel Guru 7273 posts) 9y

Quoting Q'

REPENT NOW !!

And just to cover the other side:

SERPENT NOW!

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