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91. Posted by Mel. (Travel Guru 4567 posts) 9y

Quoting Sam I Am

FYI, if you believe in God you believe he was there before religion.

My boyfriend would like to say the following, to u.

That's denial of fundamental logic. No one knows if there are blueheaded elephants on Jupiter. Why is that less likely than the existance of god? Because there are no generations of drilled masses of people saying it, that's the only difference.

92. Posted by wouterrr (Travel Guru 3379 posts) 9y

Quoting Isadora

Quoting Wﺭﺍﺪﻤﺎﮐﺭ

We should question the religious leaders. I think too that religion is important.

More importantly, shouldn't we be questioning the people who allowed religious leaders to have such power?

How did Hitler became on power? Wasn't that because of a bunch of appealing promises? Those leaders brainwash!

93. Posted by Hien (Moderator 3906 posts) 9y

Quoting Mel.

My boyfriend would like to say the following, to u.

Mel, just in case you've forgotten, TP membership is still free, you know? Your boyfriend, is more than welcomed to join us, here. :)

94. Posted by Mel. (Travel Guru 4567 posts) 9y

Quoting Mel.

Quoting Sam I Am

Quite a few smart people, including many scientists, believe there is a God for example....

Would u kindly give examples, of those scientists. As far as I see, religion and science seem to be at odds, with each other.

Mel[/quote]

My boyfriend wants to comment, on this.

Oh, they exist. But just because they are scientists does not mean they can prove their beliefs. If they went around 'proving' their scientific claims the same way, they'd be out of a job soon...

95. Posted by wouterrr (Travel Guru 3379 posts) 9y

Quoting Mel.

Quoting Sam I Am

FYI, if you believe in God you believe he was there before religion.

My boyfriend would like to say the following, to u.

That's denial of fundamental logic. No one knows if there are blueheaded elephants on Jupiter. Why is that less likely than the existance of god? Because there are no generations of drilled masses of people saying it, that's the only difference.

Nobody said that there are blue elephants on Jupiter. There has happened something in the past concerning religion which has inspired many people during centuries. And that counts for all seperate religions. There also have taken place several indications (certain miracles) that god could be excisting.

[ Edit: Edited on Feb 7, 2007, at 10:51 AM by Wﺭﺍﺪﻤﺎﮐﺭ ]

96. Posted by wouterrr (Travel Guru 3379 posts) 9y

Quoting Mel.

Quoting Mel.

Quoting Sam I Am

Quite a few smart people, including many scientists, believe there is a God for example....

Oh, they exist. But just because they are scientists does not mean they can prove their beliefs. If they went around 'proving' their scientific claims the same way, they'd be out of a job soon...

Scientist and religion are each others anti-poles.

97. Posted by Mel. (Travel Guru 4567 posts) 9y

Quoting tway

Quoting Mel.

There is no God.

For my two cents' on this - and without taking sides - saying there is no God is as fundamentalist as saying there is a God and you know what God wants.

When I say there is no God, I do not mean there is no God. What I mean is, that God symbolises the energy which governs everything in the universe. God is not a person. God is a symbol. Energy is a complex thing to visualise, so God was invented to describe it.

98. Posted by wouterrr (Travel Guru 3379 posts) 9y

Quoting Mel.

Quoting tway

Quoting Mel.

There is no God.

For my two cents' on this - and without taking sides - saying there is no God is as fundamentalist as saying there is a God and you know what God wants.

When I say there is no God, I do not mean there is no God

So actually you call it different. You believe in energy. I call that god and you call that energy. Do you believe in life after death?

99. Posted by Mel. (Travel Guru 4567 posts) 9y

Quoting Wﺭﺍﺪﻤﺎﮐﺭ

Yes you are obviously an Atheist.

I dont know if I am or not, because I dont exactly know what one is.
Anyway, I dont really like these types of labels. They are too restrictive, to free thinking.

Mel

100. Posted by wouterrr (Travel Guru 3379 posts) 9y

Quoting Mel.

Quoting Wﺭﺍﺪﻤﺎﮐﺭ

Yes you are obviously an Atheist.

I dont know if I am or not, because I dont exactly know what one is.
Anyway, I dont really like these types of labels. They are too restrictive, to free thinking.
Mel

So you don't know, but based on your words you incline towards atheistic thinking. Do you think there is something after you died? Or do you believe in reincarnation or just darkness and never wake up again.

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