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1. Posted by mikeyBoab (Travel Guru 5077 posts) 9y

There were some shocking statistics on BBC's Panorama program last night - apparently only 34% of Britons would intervene if they saw street crime taking place (ie vandalism, a robbery, a beating) compared with 52% of Spaniards and 64% of Germans.

What would you do???

2. Posted by Utrecht (Moderator 5595 posts) 9y

Depends on how many people and what kind of people. In my own street an my own property, I will try to kick the hell out of them, for the rest I wouldn't bother too much, unless they are the type that is a danger on the road, I will teach them too. I hate people who can't drive

3. Posted by Mel. (Travel Guru 4567 posts) 9y

Whenever I see something like a person getting physically hurt, I bring the attention of everybody I can, on the street to it, and ask people to call the police right away.

For robbery, I just call the police and tell them what I saw. Same for vandalism.

I have seen a few shoplifters in action, and did not bother, to do anything.

Mel

4. Posted by Clarabell (Travel Guru 1696 posts) 9y

It definatly depends. I live in quite a good area, and if the students are mucking about outside making a racket, I can ask them to keep it down and they'd be fine. If I thought there was a burglary or car break in (the most likely crime in my part of town, theres not much anti-social behaviour or violence against the person) going on I'd definalty ring the police. Maybe if a car was being broken into on my street I might shout out the window.

If someone was being attacked in the street, I'd ring the police and maybe shout for help, but a 5'2" girl can't do much. I'd certainly keep my distance.

Its stuff like vandalism and nuisance behaviour that really wrecks communities in this country. You're not supposed to tell kids off anymore. And if you live in that kind of area there's little you can do, because if they found out it was you that rang the police, and knew where you lived, they'd give you hell. That used to happen on the estate I used to work on, whole families would gang up on another, because the guy at no14 had grassed on their little Tyson for setting fire to vacant houses when he was supposed to be in school.

5. Posted by mikeyBoab (Travel Guru 5077 posts) 9y

Quoting Clarabell

You're not supposed to tell kids off anymore.

That's one of the big problems . . . The program cited an example of a family who were being tormented constantly by a gang of kids. The final straw was when the man's parents came to visit and the kids hurled abuse at them. The man and a shopkeeper chased the kids and caught one of them and made him come to the house and apologise to the guy's mum (which he did). The next day (get this) the man was arrested for kidnapping the boy. He spent a week in jail and was eventually released on bail before the case was thrown out of court. The Minister for Police sat in the interview, defending the decision to arrest the man because the matter had to be fully investigated - this mentality is what is wrong with this country.

6. Posted by wouterrr (Travel Guru 3379 posts) 9y

Intervening, intervening....that depends on how big you are I think. I am not really Schwarzenegger (luckily not, crazy man). I don't want to have a knife in my back. But I would certaintly do something about the situation. At first I would call the police (everyone has a cellphone nowadays) and give detailled information about the location and situation. If its really serious I would maybe collect a bunch of passing people and just try to stop them. With 5 to 6 you should be able to stop 2 fighting people or vandalists.

7. Posted by Mel. (Travel Guru 4567 posts) 9y

Hello Clarabell and MickeyBoab.

I am a mother. I tell kids off, all the time. Mostly for things like bullying in the playground and for stealing and vandalism. But, I would never physically force one of them, to go anywhere with me. There is a big difference between telling off and physically forcing a kid to go someplace with an adult. That guy should not have done that.

Mel

[ Edit: Edited on Feb 6, 2007, at 7:38 AM by Mel. ]

8. Posted by tway (Travel Guru 7273 posts) 9y

Quoting mikeyBoab

Quoting Clarabell

You're not supposed to tell kids off anymore.

That's one of the big problems . . .

What happened to that? Remember when you'd be terrified that some neighbour/persn of authority/family member - even a stranger - would catch you doing something bad? Now there don't seem to be any consequences to kids' actions - which leads to a complete lack of respect. Kids are SUPPOSED to be scolded for their bad actions. As much as misbehaving is a part of life and teaches great lessons, so too does paying the consequences.

It's also a sad thing that too many kids are spoiled. There's something very humanizing and uplifting to be able to understand and appreciate gratitude.

On the topic at hand, I don't know how quickly I'd step in to help. I'd leave a robbery or vandalism alone and call the police afterwards, but a beating? Or a rape? You've got a second to react, and the potential to get hurt, or worse, yourself. I hope I'd intervene.

9. Posted by Clarabell (Travel Guru 1696 posts) 9y

Quoting Mel.

Hello Clarabell and MickeyBoab.

I am a mother. I tell kids off, all the time. Mostly for things like bullying in the playground and for stealing and vandalism. But, I would never physically force one of them, to go anywhere with me. There is a big difference between telling off and physically forcing a kid to go someplace with an adult. That guy should not have done that.

Mel

The kid supposedly agreed to go with the man, he wasn't forced at all, but I think the man was a bit naive not to guess that the kid would turn round and accuse him of kidnap.

However, you hear all the time about parents who don't want other adults to tell their kids off (even though they are obviously doing a rubbish job at parenting). You'll get toldto mind your own business, even if it is you own business. If they are really little kids, and I knew it wasn't a dodgy area I would tell them off. But quite frankly, groups of older kids, especially lads, of about 13 upwards scare me.

What has happened to the world? Its the "respect" thing, when did kids stop respecting their elders. When I was a kid you were always worried about getting "told off". Kids were "scared" of authority figures and cops etc. Now grown adults are scared of kids. Its a mess.

One day last summer, in the busy city centre I tutted really loudly at a (grotty chav) guy of about 18 who basically spat in my path as I walked past him (i kind of overtook because he was going slow and I was on my lunchbreak). He snarled at me and said "well you shouldn't have f***ing tried to get past me then".....I was steaming. I was so angry at that, I couldn't even react, and I kind of wished I'd confonted him. The dirty pig. On recounting the story to a friend, they said I could have got stabbed or something if I'd said anything. I do think that's unlikely, but it goes to show the fear that has been created in people, (perhaps the media have added to this) that we are scared to confront any unacceptable behaviour.

I wish I'd decked the dirty foul-mouthed disease-spreading scumbag, but I could do without a criminal record.

[ Edit: Edited on Feb 6, 2007, at 10:02 AM by Clarabell ]

10. Posted by dr.pepper (Travel Guru 316 posts) 9y

Quoting Utrecht

Depends on how many people and what kind of people. In my own street an my own property, I will try to kick the hell out of them...

What if we're talking about hearing shouting and (verbal) abuse next door at the neighbours' place?

If you're afraid things could turn violent next door (but you're unsure they will), would you call the cops?