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11. Posted by Utrecht (Moderator 5596 posts) 9y

Quoting dr.pepper

Quoting Utrecht

Depends on how many people and what kind of people. In my own street an my own property, I will try to kick the hell out of them...

What if we're talking about hearing shouting and (verbal) abuse next door at the neighbours' place?

If you're afraid things could turn violent next door (but you're unsure they will), would you call the cops?

That's a hard one, but I guess if it's on a very regular basis (I guess I would know if I was a neighbour) I probably would call yes. But sometimes some shouting couldn't hurt I guess.

12. Posted by Mel. (Travel Guru 4567 posts) 9y

Quoting Clarabell

The kid supposedly agreed to go with the man, he wasn't forced at all, but I think the man was a bit naive not to guess that the kid would turn round and accuse him of kidnap.

However, you hear all the time about parents who don't want other adults to tell their kids off (even though they are obviously doing a rubbish job at parenting). You'll get toldto mind your own business, even if it is you own business. If they are really little kids, and I knew it wasn't a dodgy area I would tell them off. But quite frankly, groups of older kids, especially lads, of about 13 upwards scare me.

I think there might be more to the kidnapping story. If the guy did not physically force the kid to go anywhere, then there were not withnesses to say he did, and therefore no kidnapping. That is the way the law sees it, as far as I know.

The thing about parents not wanting adults to tell their kid off: One of the most annoying things parents have to deal with, are people giving unsolicited advise. That would cause a parent to be annoyed, at somebody telling their kid off. But, if u are in the playground, street, etc, and there is no parent around, u can tell them to stop whatever is the bad behaviour. This is enough for most kids. If it is not, then tell their parents. If the parents have problems, and the kids are completely out of control, the thing to do is contact the social services. But only if u feel strongly that this is the case and the behaviour is severe enough and going on for a long time.

I dont think making kids scared of us, in order to get respect is healthy. We should be able to use more sophisticated communication, than that.

I would ignore that 18 year old. He is not a kid anymore. He is just a bad mannered creep, in my opinion

13. Posted by Mel. (Travel Guru 4567 posts) 9y

Quoting tway

It's also a sad thing that too many kids are spoiled. There's something very humanizing and uplifting to be able to understand and appreciate gratitude.

Thats absolutely true.
There are a lot of fat little kids, with bad teeth, running around my neighbourhood.
People dont want to apply the dicipline, that was applied, to them, when they were kids. Problem is they dont apply any dicipline, at all.
Kids make their own decisions, which they are not mature and experienced, enough to make, without any adult support.
Parenting is not an easy thing. Applying new psychology skills instead of the old punishing thing is a bit like feeling around in the dark, for something u lost. And, when u are the only one in your neighbourhood trying to apply these new techniques...

14. Posted by Mel. (Travel Guru 4567 posts) 9y

Quoting dr.pepper

If you're afraid things could turn violent next door (but you're unsure they will), would you call the cops?

I have called the police, for this. I heard a man and a women shouting and screaming at each other, next door, and fruniture breaking. I called the police. By the time the police arrived, the noise had stopped, and i did not know which appartment is came from(there were appartments above, and at 3 sides of mine). The police were very understanding and sympathetic. They told me to call again, if I heard more. I did, and the shouting had stoped, even before the police picked up the phone. They were again understanding and patient and reassured me that they are there, for that sort of thing.

Mel

[ Edit: Edited on Feb 7, 2007, at 12:39 AM by Mel. ]

15. Posted by Q' (Travel Guru 1987 posts) 9y

It would depend on the crime and whether I thought I could be effective. Robbery: I'd draw attention to the crime or try to get in the guys way. Rape: I'd yell or otherwise try to scare the guy away. Some guy mowing people down in the street with an automatic assault rifle: Err....I'll let the police deal with that one.

I don't think you should intervene at all costs. Your first and foremost responsibility is to yourself. Like in First Aide training, you can't give assisstance if you are hurt yourself.

As for the false "kidnaping" case mentioned, I think the police should be reprimanded for incompetence. It should be obvious that the case would be thrown out of court. We have enough stupid cases in our courts already.

16. Posted by mikeyBoab (Travel Guru 5077 posts) 9y

Quoting Q'

As for the false "kidnaping" case mentioned, I think the police should be reprimanded for incompetence.

The police service is powerless these days. The police used to deal with such matters quietly and efficiently but in today's PC world of law suits they can't do a lot.

17. Posted by beavis (Budding Member 177 posts) 9y

Yes I would ,and have a few times..

Only regretted it once. Cracked 2 knuckles off the fellas jaw. He was thumping his partner/wife in a phone booth. You cant fo that!!!

I seen that Panorama programme during the week, You cant blame some for not interveening at times. Its not easy to just walk away either.

18. Posted by Mel. (Travel Guru 4567 posts) 9y

Quoting beavis

Yes I would ,and have a few times..

Only regretted it once. Cracked 2 knuckles off the fellas jaw. He was thumping his partner/wife in a phone booth. You cant fo that!!!

I seen that Panorama programme during the week, You cant blame some for not interveening at times. Its not easy to just walk away either.

If i was a man, i think I would also be likely to intervene, in that situation. Since i am not a man, i would hope that there is a man around, to help. Could any person just ignore that? Maybe punching him is not such a good idea, and is just doing exactly what he is doing, but...... Did u get in trouble, for punching him?

Mel

[ Edit: Edited on Feb 7, 2007, at 6:36 AM by Mel. ]

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