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11. Posted by dondele (Budding Member 9 posts) 9y

I would never go to countries in these situations:
1- WAR
2- NO HUMAN RIGHTS RESPECTED
3- SEVERAL DANGERS: KIDNAPPING, FANATICISM, ETC...

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12. Posted by Utrecht (Moderator 5596 posts) 9y

Quoting Mel.

Utrecht

Would u go to Nigeria?

Mel

Mel, you are right, I forgot about one country I mentioned much earlier somewhere else in a thread. I probably would not go there, I would not feel comfortable to say the least....
Would you go there right now?
Michael

13. Posted by Mel. (Travel Guru 4567 posts) 9y

No, I would not go to Nigeria.

I was talking with an English guy, last November. His company sent him to Nigeria, to work, for 4 weeks. What a hell hole.
He even had to go to and from work, in an armoured car. And the stuff he said about the police and army...... etc etc
A lot of countires in Africa are dangerous.
I was buying a ticket, to East Africa around 8 years ago. The only countries which were deemed safe enough by whatever organisagion reports these things, were Kenia and Tanzania. I did go to Uganda, but I did not travel around much, because I did not trust the media to accurately report the war struff.

Mel

[ Edit: Edited on Feb 6, 2007, at 11:39 PM by Mel. ]

14. Posted by Utrecht (Moderator 5596 posts) 9y

Maybe there are some more countries I would not go to right know, mainly because of safety issues (NOT to say that's not possible or that people have traveled there without any problems). I'll try to make a list here:
Iraq
Afghanistan
Somalia
Haiti
Ivory Coast
Nigeria
Central African Republic
Liberia
Angola
Congo (both)
Burundi
Chad
Sudan

And less so:
Colombia
Guyana
Solomon Islands
Guinee (and Guinee Bissau)

[ Edit: Edited on Feb 7, 2007, at 12:44 AM by Utrecht ]

15. Posted by Mel. (Travel Guru 4567 posts) 9y

Utrecht.

Ethopia?

16. Posted by Mr Gecko (Inactive 34 posts) 9y

what about south africa? that has one of the worlds highest murder rate, rapes, muggings, etc etc...apparently 85% of the population has been a victim of crime in the past 12 months.

i get worried that this nation is going to be hosts of one of the biggest football tournements in the world in 2010 mind you they did pull it of in the rugby in 1995...but totally 2 different tournaments.
there public transport is still non-existant to this day...

if ireland qualify if ever...then ill be there for sure.

i have had some friends tell me that and parents tell me its very dangerous. i also have a lot of south african friends and they all want to leave!!!

not only that but they all drink drive! because there is no other way of getting home from a night out.

i only go to south africa to see the x and some very good friends, apart from that i couldnt be assed...but its not that, i dont have an interest in south africa...theres a lot more countrys that i am interested in...i just hope that i dont come home in a body bag.

i remember only a few years ago a irish band flew into jo'burg airport and the second they walked out of the airport they were shot at and robbed...now...from my experience most airports in the world is a safe haven with armed police and police everywhere! even dublins airport!!

to be honest i aint even looking forward to going to south africa...im a month there...but i am sure i will still have a blast, but i dont like the idea of not roaming in FREE mode! instead i have to think were exactly i am going...and if someone says to me thats the normal approach in any big city its not...i can walk around boston, new york, dublin, london, amsterdam, and lots of other big citys without considering if i am going to be harmed...however in south africa in particular cape town and jo'burg im told one cannot to that...actually ive been told to keep out of jo'burg completely.

even all the travel books that i have read on cape town tells me to keep out of the city after dark, and in jo'burg its a no go after 5pm.

whats the point visiting a country if you cant do half the shit that you would to do in any normal country...thats not an experience? thats a bad experience of a holiday...

[ Edit: Edited on Feb 7, 2007, at 2:06 AM by Mr Gecko ]

17. Posted by Utrecht (Moderator 5596 posts) 9y

Quoting Mel.

Utrecht.

Ethopia?

Hi Mel,

Sure, it's a safe country in general, although some eastern parts can't be travelled real good. There are some tribes who would rather not see anyone in their environment. But if you have a guide for that area it's ok. And probably in the capital in certain neighbourhoods or at night, you have to be careful. But that's the case with Nairobi as well.

Michael

18. Posted by Mr Gecko (Inactive 34 posts) 9y

cant be all that safe if governments are posting the following:

'We advise you to reconsider your need to travel to Ethiopia due to the high threat of terrorist attack against Western interests and ongoing political tensions. '
We strongly advise you not to travel to the border areas with Kenya, Somalia and Sudan, including the Gambella region, or to the disputed border area between Eritrea and Ethiopia because of the extremely dangerous security situation in these areas.

it also says to avoid public transport and the need to go into the city centre.....lovely:)

plus if you do go up shit creek there isnt any embassys there!!! well bugger all embassys there...

[ Edit: Edited on Feb 7, 2007, at 2:19 AM by Mr Gecko ]

19. Posted by HafJafMark (Respected Member 291 posts) 9y

The only thing that would stop me travelling to a particular place is personal safety. Some members have mentioned not going to places who are at war. In the case of Iraq the coalition is:

USA, United Kingdom, South Korea, Australia, Poland, Romania, Denmark, El Salvador, Georgia, Azerbaijan, Bulgaria, Latvia, Albania, Slovakia, Czech Republic, Mongolia, Lithuania, Armenia, Bosnia & Herzegovina, Estonia, Macedonia, Kazakhstan, Moldova, Fiji, Hungary, Nicaragua, Spain, Dominican Republic, Honduras, Philippines, Thailand, New Zealand, Tonga, Portugal, Singapore, Norway,Ukraine, The Netherlands, Japan & Italy.

Kinda a ties you down, doesnt it? And thats only one war, never mind the rest of them.

Other members have mentioned not visiting countries with unethical practices – the example given was Japanese Whaling. Presumably this would also exclude Canada for its seal clubbing, England for its Fox hunting, Russia for its bear hunting, half of Africa for its Bushmeat hunting etc.

When you closely examine the politics of each country, youll find that they are all similar shades of gray, rather than black and white. Very few (if any) countries can claim to be ‘ethical’ and almost all are hypocritical. Politics, in my opinion is a very bad reason not to visit a country.

20. Posted by wouterrr (Travel Guru 3379 posts) 9y

Quoting Mr Gecko

'We advise you to reconsider your need to travel to Ethiopia due to the high threat of terrorist attack against Western interests and ongoing political tensions. '
We strongly advise you not to travel to the border areas with Kenya, Somalia and Sudan, including the Gambella region, or to the disputed border area between Eritrea and Ethiopia because of the extremely dangerous security situation in these areas.

Follow all the advices and you will get stuck in your room forever. As long as you don't go to a warzone its reasonable. There is always a slight risk in everything. You could get hit by a car when you step out of your door. You could even get hit by meteorite. But you could also arrive safely after some trekking in Ethiopia. Places not to go at the moment are warzones such as Iraq, Afghanistan, Sudanese part of Darfur, Democratic republic of Congo, some unstabil countries in West-Africa such as Sierra Leone and Liberia, Northern Algeria and rural Colombia. The rest of the world is there at your feet;).

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