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Starbucks faces eviction from the Forbidden City

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1. Posted by travelren (Budding Member 2 posts) 9y

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The Starbucks coffeeshop in the Forbidden City might be forced to leave after an online campaign against it started by CCTV anchor Mr Rui on his blogs on Sina and CCTV.
Rui said "The Forbidden City is a symbol of China's cultural heritage. Starbucks in a symbol of lower middle class culture in the west. We need to embrace the world, but we also need to preserve our cultural identity. There is a fine line between globalisation and contamination." He also mentioned that "But please don't interpret this as an act of nationalism. It is just about we Chinese people respecting ourselves. I actually like drinking Starbucks coffee. I am just against having one in the Forbidden City."
What is your comment for Starbucks in the Forbidden City from the angle of a tourist?
Notice is a tourist,is not a politician.

2. Posted by rainbower (First Time Poster 1 posts) 9y

I don't like Starbucks Coffeeshop.

3. Posted by paul j (Respected Member 217 posts) 9y

I think this guy would agree ..

4. Posted by daphnemaia (Full Member 155 posts) 9y

while i do find that it is "contamination" indeed, i sure won't complain when it's so sunny is summer and i am in need of a ice cool coffee frappucino. neither will i complain if i can get a hot cup of caramel macchiato while exploring the forbidden city during winter.

but... damnit. i couldn't find starbucks while i was there.

if u wanna open a coffee place there, please put it on the map.

5. Posted by angela g. (Inactive 19 posts) 9y

i ve seen starbucks in the forbidden city, we even took a picture of it as we thought this is very weird. i absolutely unnderstand this point of view, starbucks doesnt belong in the forbidden city!

6. Posted by Gelli (Travel Guru 2457 posts) 9y

I'm also not a starbucks fan, but kind of liked it in the forbidden city (and like angela, and many, many others) took a photo outside of it. It's just so bizarre. Personally, as it's already there, it doesn't bother me so much, although i'd be happy for it to close. But If they were trying to go in - or if anybody else such as MaccyD's wanted to go in), i'd be absolutely against it.

Cultural heritage or not, they have to accept that the Forbidden City is a huge tourist attraction with lots of westerners going there, and is a huge site which takes time to go around, so they need to have some kind of adequate provision for refreshments in there. Whether that is Chinese vendors, starbucks or something else, probably doesn't matter so much.

Whatever you think about it, you can't argue that it does a roaring trade and seems to be hugely popular, although whether thats because it's starbucks, or just the general lack of alternatives (there is little else apart form a couple of places in the back corner which are relatively basic and seem positively confused if they get western customer) i don't know.

7. Posted by worldwideG (Respected Member 117 posts) 9y

i welcome the news that starbucks will be removed from the forbidden city and was disgusted by the fact that they had been allowed to open there in the first instance. when i visited in august i deliberatly avoided starbucks despite it not displaying its logo on the front of the shop. i also found it appaling that american express were advertising the fact that they had donated signs inside the forbidden city. why couldn't a chinese bank have donated these crass signs? would people suggest it is acceptable to open a mcdonalds inside angkor wat if they agree that it is legitimate for starbucks to remain in the forbidden city? i think it erodes the cultural heritage allowing western fast-food chains to open in these places. i would also disagree with such chains opening in culturally important attractions in the western world. there place, sadly if they have to have one, is on the high street. if you want an iced latte, go to the one in beijing city centre. you're better off drinking water at these places anyway. i'm glad that there weren't many vendors in the forbidden city because they ruin the atmosphere of these places and ruin photo's when they are in the shot.

8. Posted by Mel. (Travel Guru 4567 posts) 9y

Hello Travelren

I have never been to the Forbidden City, so am not really entitled, to give an opinion. But, I am inclined, to think that refreshments in the Forbidden City and other places which are old, beautiful culture spots could be provided in a more tasteful way, than having a Starbucks there.


9. Posted by oslaue (Full Member 571 posts) 9y

whats the big deal? all starbucks a coffee shop!
if no one likes it then they dont have to drink there!

10. Posted by Mel. (Travel Guru 4567 posts) 9y

My boyfriend says the following, about Travelrens comment.

I agree with this guy when he says it's no place to contaminate with fast-food stuff. He can eff off with his middle-class malarky though...