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1. Posted by Mel. (Travel Guru 4567 posts) 9y

Why do we have borders around countries?
It costs so much time and energy, to prevent people comming in and out. Why dont we just get rid of those borders, and let people live and travel where they want?

Somebody suggested this, to me, around 12 years ago. I thought it was an idiotic idea, and refused to talk about it. Now, that I know more about money and politics(not that I know a lot, just more), I am not so sure.

Mel

[ Edit: Edited on Feb 12, 2007, at 7:37 AM by Mel. ]

2. Posted by Utrecht (Moderator 5595 posts) 9y

Actually, I would have thought the other way around. 12 years ago I would say yes, great idea. Nowadays, I think it's necessary. Ok, out of an ideal attitude towards seeing the world as one thing with people etc etc you could say it's not necessary.
But there are so many reasons to have borders....what language should be the main language for example in the world....only that question alone will cause a never ending worldwar. Not to talk about other stuff...
But maybe ask me in 12 years again...;)

3. Posted by wouterrr (Travel Guru 3379 posts) 9y

to me borders have something fascinating. after you crossed the border its totally different. atleast it feels like it. its a great feeling. but at the other hand. especially in corrupt countries (if you are travelling overland), its not always that fun....

4. Posted by Utrecht (Moderator 5595 posts) 9y

That as wel Wouter(rr). It's great to have different countries, different attitudes, different culture etc. etc. I hate the euro for example...;)
And most important of all.....we all have been in just one country.....so you can't show off anymore....

5. Posted by wouterrr (Travel Guru 3379 posts) 9y

Quoting Utrecht

That as wel Wouter(rr). It's great to have different countries, different attitudes, different culture etc. etc. I hate the euro for example...;)
And most important of all.....we all have been in just one country.....so you can't show off anymore....

No can't say I am against the Euro. I think its easy and efficient. there are so many relatively small countries in Europe. When you make a roundtrip you get stuck with money from the previous country (unless you exchange it with an ultra low exchange rate). I am glad that's over. But at the other hand different currencies also has its charm.

6. Posted by tway (Travel Guru 7273 posts) 9y

So long as countries have different laws, rules and regulations, borders are a necessity. Europe was able to break down borders only after countries decided on and adopted a common set of laws.

I can't imagine the Canadian/U.S. border - formerly known as the longest unprotected border in the world - doing away with customs check-points. Take child abduction, for example. Border crossings ensure any child leaving one country for another has permission from both parents and the right documentation. Gun laws also differ by country, as well as rules for what you can and can't bring across the border, how much you can buy, etc. etc.

7. Posted by Q' (Travel Guru 1987 posts) 9y

How else am I going to grow my collection of passport stamps !?!!? What a bad idea !!! Keep the borders, I say !!! Infact add more borders !!!

8. Posted by Mel. (Travel Guru 4567 posts) 9y

Quoting Utrecht

It's great to have different countries, different attitudes, different culture etc. etc.

But isnt that all changing anyway? I even cook recipes, from all over the world. And our clothes come from all over the world. And there are already lots and lots of immigrants living in our countries etc etc

9. Posted by Mel. (Travel Guru 4567 posts) 9y

Quoting Wﺭﺍﺪﻤﺎﮐﺭ

to me borders have something fascinating. after you crossed the border its totally different. atleast it feels like it. its a great feeling. but at the other hand. especially in corrupt countries (if you are travelling overland), its not always that fun....

But, if there were no borders, couldnt we just apply laws for respecting human rights, all over the world. Dictators would no longer be allowed to dominate people, within the borders of the country, they took over.

10. Posted by Mel. (Travel Guru 4567 posts) 9y

Quoting tway

So long as countries have different laws, rules and regulations, borders are a necessity.

But why do we have different laws, anyway? Shouldnt human rights laws just apply everywhere? And wouldnt it be fairer, if money was worth the same everywhere. Instead of like now, where some of us, have the advantage of being able use the world as a playground, while others cant even afford to travel out of their own countries, at all.

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