WOW why all the stonehenge bashing!? UNERWHELMING? I cant believe you guys agree with that..and you are English? Are you sure maybe your just not educated on how it was built, where the stones came from and how and why they are constructed? How can you guys be so ignorant on a travel site? Are u really telling a visitor to your country to NOT see a major wonder of the ancient world?
Avebury Circle is a great site as well, and allows you to walk around the stones. Its not for from Salisbury.
is there any reason why you need to go to manchester / sheffield?
two of the worst citys in the uk! manchester is a complete and utter dump! liverpool is way way wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy nicer! and thats beside manchester...better yet chester is very nice. but really forget about manchester and sheffield...not worth it at all in the small time frame that you have got.
london and bath is only 1.5 hours on the train from london paddington station...but remember doing and getting around london takes forever!!! its a real mission!
check out the website uk national rail for train times and of course journey times.
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hIL357: DONT MISS MY TOWN OUT.
just thought u might like to visit my town in north yorkshire as its between leeds and york. Its a spa town called Harrogate and is quite famous for its water, beautiful gardens and local historic sites. Lots of Agatha Christies also wrote a lot of her books in the town.
Please feel free to ask any questions on the north yorkshire region.
hope you enjoy your trip
Pretty tight schedule... I would suggest cutting out one destination.
I live in Yorkshire, it's a beautiful place. York and Harrogate are the best places to visit, other than the Dales, but the Dales are similar to the Peak District as you're short of time. I can see that you want to visit the yorkshire cities as you want to see the universities, but you would really need more time to do that. I went to University in Sheffield (and then in Bradford) and it took me a full day to see it and I only live 50 miles from there.
The problem with the UK is it's small compared to everywhere else, but it still takes ages to drive around.
Have you considered seeing London by Tube before renting your car? It would be much faster. England is really expensive for car rentals, but there's nothing we can do to change that.
Stone Henge is amazing, but you can't get too close and have to stay on the other side of a fence. I can understand why some people say it's not very good, but they haven't read and understood all the back story. If you are aware of the effort it took to build, it's the UK version of the Pyramids.
Fortunately, if you do decide to fit a lot in and end up spending a lot of time travelling, at least in June you should see a lot of scenery. The motorways are surrounded by fields and rivers, so at least driving should be pleasant!
I dispute that Stonehenge deserves the accolade it has of 'wonder of the ancient world'. I think it is a place of moderate historical interest, particularly the theorising about how the stones got transported all that way - but I just think there are so many better things to see in England (and in Scotland) than Stonehenge. For a start, nobody really knows why it was constructed. I guess some see that as an attraction, adding to the mystique, but I find it more interesting to see the Roman Baths at Bath, Leeds Castle, the Forts on Hadrian's Wall, etc, as there is enough information for me to be able to visualise how people would have lived centuries ago.
I also find Stonehenge disappointing partly because there isn't actually an awful lot there. Compared to Palmyra/Topkapi/El Djem/Ephesus/Angkor /Pyramids is it really a 'wonder'? Is the fact that something has existed and its history is interesting enough to visit a site? If it were we'd all be queuing up to see where the colossus was when we went to Greece, wouldn't we?
I think that Avebury is a more satisfying place to visit than Stonehenge, partly because you don't have to troll around after 70 coach parties up a line held together by a big fence (given that the mystique of these sites is definitely part of the selling point). I guess that combining them might make a good day out. You could mix in Glastonbury Tor, and the abbey, as well.
But, ultimately, I dissuade people from making a detour to visit stonehenge as, in my opinion, I can think of at least 20 more interesting ways to spend a day in England. But of course this is only my opinion.
I agree with the Stonehenge bashing.
I went there, and then was disappointed. Having a better background now (lots of Harry Potter fanfiction) I wished I had gone to see the Glastonbury Tor or Avebury.
What totally blew me away instead was Bath. Having only ever read about the city in romantic British novels, I assumed it to be a typical European spa of the 17th and 18th century. I did not know about the Roman bathhouse. It was a pleasant surprise - there was so much to see. I had visited Roman baths before, but in a lot worse condition. The only thing I did not like about the place was that is was no longer operational! After all the talk, I wanted to jump in and have a swim too.
I forgot to say that if you base yourself in or around York (as per 1st reply, head for Harrogate) then Manchester is only an hour away by train (and you get to see the Pennines so it's pleasant...until you get to the city that is!) Sheffield is 45 minutes away and Leeds 20 minutes away. Don't forget how small England and GB is in general!
Have fun and I hope your plans of coming here to study come to fruition.
I live in Sheffield, and much as I love the city, there is nothing to see in a tourist way. Same with Manchester and Leeds, good shoppping but nothing special. I would skip them unless you are deperate to experience TopShop, H&M, Virgin and McDonalds in a big northern city.
I strongly recommend the Peak District though. Its lovely in early June, lots of butterflies and wild flowers etc. Although its only a very short drive from Sheffield, it would be far nicer to find accomodation in a B&B in one of the lovely little villages in the Peak District itself. Also on the edge of the Peak District, on the Sheffield side, is Chatsworth House, which is set in beautiful parklands. Buxton is a pleasant old fashioned spa town.
Further North, York is well worth it, its a good day out, the Railway museum and Yorvik are interesting. The North Yorkshire Moors (think Wuthering Heights) and Coastline are lovely. I really recommend Whitby, its great. And supposedly the best Fish and Chips in the UK (therefore the world) come from the Magpie at Whitby, but expect a queue. Although travelling distances are short, if you want to appreciate the countryside, you really need time to relax and have a walk. Also up there, Robin Hoods Bay might be nice.
I really think the best thing about Northern England is the countryside. And you should have good weather in June, fingers crossed!
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Is the fact that something has existed and its history is interesting enough to visit a site? If it were we'd all be queuing up to see where the colossus was when we went to Greece, wouldn't we?
Ummmmm, I did
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