Hi! I'm planning my first solo travel plan from Medan to Penang, Bangkok, Siam reap and then to KL and S'pore. I have 12 days to do all this. Any advice on train route from Butterworth to Bangkok? And what is the best way to get to Siam Reap from Bangkok? How's the immigration situation when you arrive in Cambodia?
Thanks for any suggestions!
I'm not the most experienced traveller, but from the advice i've gotten from teh experts on here, I'd say get the plane to Phnom Penh, since you've only 12 days to do all that, your a bit rushed. Then from Phnom Penh get the bus up to SR. When your done you might want to get the bus back to PP and maybe get a cheap AirAsia flight to another of your destinations to save you time, as opposed to trains/buses.
For trains, see seat61.com. then go to the bit about travel in SEAsia. theres timetables etc there, and some prices, although apparently its far cheaper to book the ticket when your in that area, and to get the train the following day!
Hopefully other's will confirm what i say! :-)
ps - are you travelling at the minute? if you've been around the Krabi area, tel me about it on the krabi thread i'v started - trying to get as much viewpoints as possible!
[ Edit: Edited on Feb 14, 2007, at 4:59 AM by Darren7 ]
Would agree with Darren about flying to PP, we are doing that in May after getting the bus from Bangkok to SR last year. The journey takes about 10 hours in total (inc waiting for visas to be processed) and the last 7 hours of that you are only travelling about 150km! The roads are "interesting" to say the least (riddled with potholes - hence the slow progress) so if you're are pushed for time anyway i'd advise to give that a miss. You do see a lot of the countryside but arrive sore from being thrown around and crabby from the journey.
We got the sleeper service from KL to Surat Thani before and it was great, bit confined in the beds but not too bad. You get out at the border, sort out the visa stuff and then get back on again for the rest of the journey.
Hope this helps
Thanks for the advices! I will include phnom penh in my itinerary then, and maybe add more days in cambodia. Also I will definitely try the train route from m'sia to bangkok. More to see than using air plane.
We were just in that part of the world last year doing a SE Asia trip all overland. I can tell you that unless you want a great story to tell all your friends back home, you don't want to overland from Siem Reap to the Thai border. There is one road, if you can call it a road - the plowed fields on either side of it looked smoother than what we were on. We went just the opposite direction you are going, we had to book a taxi from Siem Reap to Thailand - it was insane. I have heard terrible stories about booking buses from Bangkok to Siem Reap - like it is a big rip off routine. So you are probably better off doing the flying thing.
You can easily get your visa at the land borders in Cambodia, or at the airport.
The trains from Butterworth to Thailand are great. The Malaysia trains are much better than the Thai trains. Use this link for info on traveling by trains:
Also, don't get too friendly with the Thai porters on the train as you might be in for giving them an extra large tip that you hadn't expected ...
On that route, aren't you going to be backtracking a lot? Does your trip end in Singapore? Just curious as to why you chose that route...
Hi martha, thanks for the reply. Yup, my trip will end in s'pore before going back to Indonesia. Well, my plan is going from m'sia to bangkok using the overnight train and from bkk (as suggested) i'll fly to PP, spend a couple of days there before going to sihanoukville or battambang (i'm not sure which one to visit in my limited time) then travel to siam reap. Air Asia has a direct flight from siam reap to KL, so i'm taking that flight and then go by bus to s'pore. do you or anyone else have any other suggestion?
I would say that Sihanoukville is more intresting than Battambang but you have not that much time so I would rec. to go from PP direct to SR and sbend enough time there, to see all the emazing places in Ankor you'll need 3 days, but just preper your self that there are LOTS of tourists and even more anoying sellers that damages the emazing spirit of that great place!
I liked the town Komppong Cham which would by on the way between PP and SR.
If you would like to ask more just do it, I was travelling in Cambodia twise in the last year, so my knowledge is quite new....
Greetings from Switzerland