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1. Posted by Alice Ayre (Budding Member 7 posts) 9y

Me and a friend are off to new york next week, and I wanted to get some advice before we went

- Im 21, but my friend is still 20. what are the rules for bars in ny? Are you allowed in if your under 21 but you just cant drink or are you not allowed in under 21 period?

- We'll be taking a taxi from JFK to our hotel but aside from that, Im happy to walk from place to place so we see as much as possible whereas she wants to get the subway. How safe is subway/walking in ny? (Obviously I mean sticking to main streets and not taking the subway at ungodly hours) Also, does anyone know how long it takes to walk from say, central park to battery park?

- Genrally, how safe is ny compared to say, london?

Thanks in advance!

2. Posted by oslaue (Full Member 571 posts) 9y

i was in new york when i was 19 im now 25. ill be going back again some time next year.

from my own experiencey i was in a que for a nightclub and they stamped my hand with a glow in the dark stamp basically saying...under 21 dont serve me. we didnt end up going into the bar instead,
sorry that was actually in boston. and they are meant to be more strict there than in new york.

we didnt really try to get served in any bars in new york because we were only there for a few days trying to do and see as much as possible.

i do remember been in boston, and we tried going into a bar during the day (very hot) and we were asked for id, they knew we were under 21 and didnt allow us in, but we said we wanted a coke!!!
so they let us in. they just assumed since we were all irish we wanted to drink beer.

if you look under 30 they will ask you for id period!, and you can only buy one drink at a time uncase you have a friend who was older than the legal age.

i said to myself i would never go back to america until i was 21...its really crap when you cant drink.
i have been told to stick to the irish bars in new york and they serve people under the age of 21....

in relation to the subway, its safe during the day, but we were told by the locals never to travel on the subway at night as its too dangerous. walking in new york i found generally safe,
its just like any other big city...like london. everything in new york is built in blocks, which is really cool. so easy to find everything, and the streets are all numbered apose to name.
the higher the number the worst it gets! so if your in a place like 150th street then you might be in a dodgy area...i know we were...which was harlem, but its ok during the day at night not so nice.
5th avenue is equiv to oxford street. lots of shops, expensive shops etc.

comparing london to new york...i would say that new york is probably safer...but the no go areas in new york would be far worse...as in if you into a no go area of new york you wont come back out.
in london you may come back out from a beating or a robbing...

i also remember lots of bars not allowing people under 25, having said that my mate just came back from new york, hes 24 and he was drinking like mad. expect to get asked for id every time you go up by the same bar man...yeah there that thick! but you should be ok. just dont give your friend any drink! just drink for yourself!

remember a lot of americans who are 18 look like 30 years old here in europe. i call them 'mongo childs' :)

[ Edit: Edited on Feb 19, 2007, at 5:48 AM by oslaue ]

3. Posted by tway (Travel Guru 7273 posts) 9y

Quoting Alice Ayre

Im 21, but my friend is still 20. what are the rules for bars in ny? Are you allowed in if your under 21 but you just cant drink or are you not allowed in under 21 period?

From my experience, it's just about impossible to get into a bar if you're under 21 or don't have valid ID (a driver's licence or passport). A friend and I travelled to just outside of Boston when we were 21, and couldn't get a drink anywhere as neither of us has our licences. I went to New Orleans a few years ago and got carded EVERYWHERE, even though I was 31 (truth be told, it was kinda nice!). We had to carry our passports with us all the time so we could stop for a drink. So far as I know, American law is very strict about their drinking age - although there are certainly exceptions, like oslaue mentioned.

4. Posted by Purdy (Travel Guru 3546 posts) 9y

Put it this way lm 32 and l get carded in the States anytime lm in a bar - maybe its my youthful complexion and baby features (well thats what l tell myself!) or perhaps its wishful thinking!

I found the subway to be fine - although we were not on it late at night and never alone. You will need to get the subway at some point - you can walk to certain points but Manhattan around Central Park up Wall Street etc but its big!

NYC is a big city and you need to follow the usual rules of safety when in a big city and you will be as safe as you possibly can be. Be aware of your surroundings, dont leave your bag unattended, stick together especially at night.

Wrap up warm l was in NYC in Feb a few years back and it was COLD!

Heather

5. Posted by GregW (Travel Guru 2635 posts) 9y

Quoting Alice Ayre

- We'll be taking a taxi from JFK to our hotel but aside from that, Im happy to walk from place to place so we see as much as possible whereas she wants to get the subway. How safe is subway/walking in ny? (Obviously I mean sticking to main streets and not taking the subway at ungodly hours) Also, does anyone know how long it takes to walk from say, central park to battery park?

From the south end of Central Park to Battery Park would probably be about a 1 hour to 1 1/2 hour walk, depending on how fast you walk. I've done it, and it's a LONG way to walk. You can probably plan your trip a little bit to get the best of both. If you do the south end one day, you can take the subway down in the morning, see everything you want to see on foot, and take the subway back in the evening. Just grab a handy tourist map (most hotels will have one) and do a little planning before you leave for the day.

Assuming you are staying in Manhattan and travelling around Manhattan, then I wouldn't worry about taking the subway either day or night. If you head out into the other bouroughs, or head up north into Harlem, then you might want to get some local advice on safety. But anything from the north end of Central Park south to the tip of Manhattan is not a concern.

6. Posted by s_hoot (Respected Member 497 posts) 9y

ny is just another typical big city touristy scene, just stay away from dodgy alleyways and the ghettoish looking areas and you will be fine.

good luck finding a bar that allows anyone under 21.

7. Posted by samsara_ (Travel Guru 5353 posts) 9y

Hi Alice,

Cant help with the age limit thing.SOrry. I was 26 when I was there. Still got ID'd everywhere though (Oh wait, no, that's a good thing when you're 26 right? )

As for transport issues, I got the subway from JFK into NYC - no hassles. Safe, quicky, easy to find from the airport terminal. (EVERYTHING is signposted in the states!)

I walked all over NYC and loved it. Its a city for walking around I think. :) But if you need to get the subway dont worry, it's safe. I love taking the metro/subway in all the cities I visit. You see all sorts of people. :)

Walking from central park which is Uptown to Battery Park downtown will take quite a while. Over an hour I would say, depending on how fast you walk or how often you want to stop. :)
Its really fun getting around NYC and totally idiot proof with the grid system streets.

I felt very safe in New York.

Hope that helps you
Evelyn

8. Posted by samsara_ (Travel Guru 5353 posts) 9y

Actually, something just occurred to me.

I stayed in Midtown and that way I was smack bang in the centre. I did Downtown one day (walking) and Uptown another day (walking) and that way I didnt have to cover big distances on foot.

It might be a good idea if you have limited time there.

:)

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