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1. Posted by Utrecht (Moderator 5596 posts) 9y

I've just read that 4 Sri Lankans were beheaded on monday the 19th of February. I am not easily shocked, but this shocked me really.
Mainly because they 'just' did an armed robbery, without people getting killed, raped or they being involved in drug related crime.
SA wanted to make a statement to prevent further criminal activity, mainly by foreigners (one third is a foreigner over there).
What do you think?

2. Posted by adv3nture (Budding Member 49 posts) 9y

Saudia Arabia has extremely strict laws so this isn't surprising. They don't care if you are a foreigner or not, they apply harsh penalties no matter who you are.

They have been known to apply the death penalty for drug trafficking related offenses, so for them to do it for armed robbery isn't surprising to me.

Saudi Arabia has one of the highest rates of executions in the world.

They don't care what nationality you are, you commit a crime and you are likely not going to be happy with the penalty. They don't fool around.

3. Posted by oslaue (Full Member 571 posts) 9y

i guess one shouldnt rob then.
i believe in the following punishments.

1) caught robbing - cut there arms off!
2) caught raping - cut there bits off!
3) caught murdering - behead them!

my friend was teaching english out there. he hated the place! he could only drink in these so called compounds were all the westerns live.

he left saudi arabia breaching his contract. i didnt hear from him for months and told me that he can be arrested once he was in breach of his contract (dont know how true that is)

i prefer the harsh laws in saudi arabia than the case were here in ireland you can murder someone and be out in only a few years!

maybe they bring something like that into places like south africa and the crime would be reduced by 50% (maybe)

but one can raise the point that in thailand if one is caught robbing they get many many many many years eg 15...just for robbing...

[ Edit: Edited on Feb 20, 2007, at 2:44 PM by oslaue ]

4. Posted by Ahila (Inactive 1529 posts) 9y

Quoting Utrecht

I've just read that 4 Sri Lankans were beheaded on monday the 19th of February. I am not easily shocked, but this shocked me really.
Mainly because they 'just' did an armed robbery, without people getting killed, raped or they being involved in drug related crime.
SA wanted to make a statement to prevent further criminal activity, mainly by foreigners (one third is a foreigner over there).
What do you think?

I know that was a very harsh punishment. I recall that case has been in the Sri Lankan papers for some time now and both the Government of Sri Lanka and the family of the four had been appealing to the Saudi Arabian Government to not give the death penalty.

Personally, I am against capital punishment and think it is a violation of human rights.

[ Edit: Edited on Feb 20, 2007, at 6:12 PM by Ahila ]

5. Posted by Utrecht (Moderator 5596 posts) 9y

I some case death penalty is a good punishment, I have to agree. especially mass or serial murderers and for raping people maybe in some cases.
But not for other cases. By the way, look at death penalty in the USA. Although it's a pretty safe country for tourists, there is a lot of crime between gangs or the occasional mind that goes blank and shoots a lot of people, in malls or schools.
What strikes me most is the fact that Saudi Arabia says that all islamic (sharia) laws have been met so it's ok. But if a dutch politician says that half of the Koran should be erased because of the language that it uses, the Saudi Arabian government demands excuses from him......totally strange world isn't it.

6. Posted by Mel. (Travel Guru 4567 posts) 9y

Of course this disgusts me, but does not surprise me, at all.
Human Rights in Saudi are almost non exixtant.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights_in_Saudi_Arabia

7. Posted by wouterrr (Travel Guru 3379 posts) 9y

I think u must be very stupid to be involved in organized crime in Saudi Arabia. Everybody knows how strict they are. If u want to be involved in organized crime please go to Europe. There u get some nice time in prison if u get caught. And probably u will come free after a few years if u behave well. And the prisons here, believe me, 5 star hotels, those Sri-Lankan weirdo's don't know what they have missed. And now they ended up hanging in public, so sad:(. Saudi Arabia has low criminality and they want to keep that by hanging a criminal in public every once at a while. I don't blame them. Who is that stupid to get into crime anyways. And then in a country like Saudi Arabia. I think those Sri Lankans were just suicidal and very mental. I just laugh about it, sorry, that is my opinion:)

8. Posted by Mel. (Travel Guru 4567 posts) 9y

Quoting wouterrr

And the prisons here, believe me, 5 star hotels

So u do your crimes here, in Europe then Wouter? Tell me more about what the prison conditions are like here, because I have never been in one?;)

Mel

[ Edit: Edited on Feb 21, 2007, at 8:02 AM by Mel. ]

9. Posted by wouterrr (Travel Guru 3379 posts) 9y

Quoting Mel.

Quoting wouterrr

And the prisons here, believe me, 5 star hotels

So u do your crimes here, in Europe then Wouter? Tell me more about what the prison conditions are like here, because I have never been in one?;)

Mel

They have TV, radio, computer. They receive mail. They get good food. they just have a nice place to live (but no key ofcourse). They can read or write a good book or do some exercise (they have all the time, they are totally relaxed when they get free). They have care 24/7 by the European taxpayer. They have internet, I am on it right now. why do u think I post this much?

[ Edit: Edited on Feb 21, 2007, at 8:05 AM by wouterrr ]

10. Posted by tway (Travel Guru 7273 posts) 9y

So many people claim that prison is like hotel living - but how true is that really? No freedom, few rights, cramped living, gangs, fights, rapes... it doesn't sound appealing to me. I agree that prisoners shouldn't get preferrental treatment, but sometimes an education and counselling and doing something productive with your time can help rehabilitate petty criminals.

As for the big guns, well - I'm undecided on that. I think the death penalty is pure hypocracy (you can't prove killing is wrong by killing someone - and rejoycing after someone is put to death is horribly evil), but is regular incarceration enough for violent criminals? Should they be isolated? Deprived of human contact and distractions like TV or Internet? If they can't be rehabilitated, then what? Serious question.