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81. Posted by samsara_ (Travel Guru 5353 posts) 9y

Hi Wouterr,

Luckily, I'm not involved in the confrontation :) It's just some people that I work with.
And in a way you are right, I probably need to adapt again to this area of my life and be patient.

Its just that in the past I accepted this sort of stuff as part of life in The Office, whereas now it just seems a bit pointless and avoidable to me. I think prolonged travel has changed a lot of my opinions about things.

Just wondered how others felt on that score. :)

82. Posted by james (Travel Guru 4136 posts) 9y

Sorry to sound cranky.

It's just that I've got my own issues with this pyschotic b*tch at work at the moment, who is making all sorts of allegations about me (and others), to HR and other people.

These allegations are not of a sexual nature (sorry to disappoint), and this person is known as a bit of a trouble maker, but it doesn't make it any easier to deal with when the allegations are quite serious. It's quite upsetting actually.

** Now, back to my mediterranean chick pea salad and loaf of lebanese bread **

83. Posted by tway (Travel Guru 7273 posts) 9y

Quoting Isadora

Quoting samsara2

Tway, I dont think anyone who was reading your point properly could accuse you of flirting your way to the top ;)

No, but it makes for good rumor-mongering nonetheless.

Pfew! Now I don't have to explain the fishnets and come-hither looks. ;)

I've found that office politics are often a reflection of the person running the office. A strong president keeps people in line and ensures good work is respected. A pushover lets people run amok and berate one another. Either way, though, there's always drama. Nature of the workforce, really. Has anyone worked somewhere where everyone always got along?

84. Posted by Mel. (Travel Guru 4567 posts) 9y

Quoting beerman

Quoting tway

My observation is that women IN GENERAL have an easier time relating to men. That's it. Point finale.

OK, let me get this straight, because I think inquiring minds want to know: If you did flirt with your boss (a "woman"), would you have someone film it? And would you share the films?

I think this is really at the heart of the matter here.

No, I would not want to be videoed flirting with a male colleague. If I was flirting, with somebody, out of the sight and ear shot of everybody else, I would consider it a private exchange. Nothing to do with work, or anybody else. ;)

85. Posted by james (Travel Guru 4136 posts) 9y

Quoting Mel.

No, I would not want to be videoed flirting with a male colleague. If I was flirting, with somebody, out of the sight and ear shot of everybody else, I would consider it a private exchange. Nothing to do with work, or anybody else. ;)

My suggestion Mel, is for you to extinguish your joint, turn your PC off, and have an early night.

86. Posted by Purdy (Travel Guru 3546 posts) 9y

Quoting tway

I've found that office politics are often a reflection of the person running the office. A strong president keeps people in line and ensures good work is respected. A pushover lets people run amok and berate one another. Either way, though, there's always drama. Nature of the workforce, really. Has anyone worked somewhere where everyone always got along?

And AMEN to that sister!!!!!!!!!! We have a FANTASTIC MD - someone that l have never heard anyone ever slate - the entire company respects him - when he talks we all sit up and listen (and he's great to go out and have a couple of drinks with!!!) I think its because of him that the company l work for is a great place - so good in fact we have been voted 10th in UK of best companies to work for! Not bad for a back street Northern Irish bunch of "plumbers"!!!!!!!!!

87. Posted by Mel. (Travel Guru 4567 posts) 9y

Quoting Isadora

When those entitlements aren't handed out like candy bars, human nature is to look for someone or something other than ourselves to place blame upon. Both sexes are very adept at this.

No. People are this petty out of selfishness and the inability to look beyond their nose. Travel would not necessarily fix that problem. Granted, a nice vacation might help, but generally, a jackass is a jackass is a jackass.

This brings to mind, another cause of conflict, in the workplace.
It is called the 90/10 theory.
Often if we over react, to a situation, 90% of the reaction is caused, by things which happened in our past. 10% is about what is happening now. The person we are over reacting at, gets blamed, for how we are feeling, when most of how we are feeling was not in fact caused by this person.
There are situations which would cause one person to raise their eyebrows, and another to fly into a rage.
Even if a person is a jackass, it is how we respond to their jackass behaviour, more than what they are doing, with causes most of the workplace conflict.
People dont usually realise, that the jackass is only the cause of 10% of their bad feelings. They also often do not know how to deal with the feelings from their past, in a way that will not escalate conflict. ;)

[ Edit: Edited on Mar 8, 2007, at 3:45 AM by Mel. ]

88. Posted by Mel. (Travel Guru 4567 posts) 9y

Quoting Purdy

In a male dominated environment there is less petty bitchiness and minor issues being made into major ones. With predominately male environment the issues are brought to the fore head on and dealt with in a more open matter I prefer working in environment.

Where do you get off making such statements about someone you know NOTHING about?

Know nothing about?
Then tell me where on the internet, I can find research showing that u do in fact know what u are talking about. Or is there a book I can read, which details the research showing that there is less petty bitchiness, in male dominated environments. After I read these, then I will know what u know about it, and we can discuss, without u saying I know nothing about it. ;)

89. Posted by Mel. (Travel Guru 4567 posts) 9y

Quoting tway

Quoting Isadora

Both men and women are primally designed to work together within their gender to accomplish certain goals such as food gathering, child rearing and the like. They are also designed to work across the sexes to reproduce. This basic attraction is what lets men and women work together with less friction than men with men or women with women.

My goodness, you've hit the nail on the head. Beautifully said, Isa! From now on, when I say "flirtation", I mean "what Isa said."

Excellent point, as always.

Isadora, do u know where I can find on the internet, information by experts, detailing why there would be less friction in a mixed sex working environment?;)

90. Posted by Mel. (Travel Guru 4567 posts) 9y

Quoting wouterrr

Quoting james

Beer, pizza, sex.....

Drugs, parties, beautiful women (like you James)....

Hey thread jackers.
Start another thread about sex and drugs and pizza. I will contribute to it, shortly.

Mel

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