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91. Posted by Mel. (Travel Guru 4567 posts) 9y

Quoting Isadora

Quoting Q'

Quoting james

Sorry. After reading some of the dim-witted, child-like, abrasive responses in this thread I thought a bit of humour was what was needed. Some people (apart from myself) just sound so.....well, just so friggin' dumb.

Cranky aren't we? Let the thread die.

Why? I'm just getting started. Don't push me or I'll delete your ass.

Yeah Q!!!!
Dont be so damn bossy!!!!;)

92. Posted by Mel. (Travel Guru 4567 posts) 9y

Quoting Isadora

The only way I see travel helping to reverse this behavior is to have people visit places where others are less fortunate then themselves. Taking a trip to Paris to shop is basically counter-productive.

This reminds me of another reason why there may be pettiness, in the work place, and why people become less petty, when they travel.
When people are doing too much in one area of life, and not enough in another, they will become bored and irritable. Then eventually they will become disatisfied. When they dont know what causes the disatisfaction, they often blame someone or something and start making unreasonable demands on that person or thing. They do not realise, that if they pay more attention to a neglected part of their lives, they will naturally feel more satisifaction.
All work and no play.....
All religion and no fun.....
All fun and no responsibility...

93. Posted by Mel. (Travel Guru 4567 posts) 9y

Quoting tway

I've found that office politics are often a reflection of the person running the office. A strong president keeps people in line and ensures good work is respected. A pushover lets people run amok and berate one another. Either way, though, there's always drama. Nature of the workforce, really. Has anyone worked somewhere where everyone always got along?

I think that is true.
In a healthy environment, certain behaviour is not tolerated.

[ Edit: Edited on Mar 8, 2007, at 8:17 AM by Mel. ]

94. Posted by wouterrr (Travel Guru 3379 posts) 9y

OMG just saw a penguin on my street. I told him his rights

you have the right to remain silent, anything you say will be used against you in court of law; you have the right to consult an attorney and to have that attorney present during interrogation, if you are indigent, an attorney will be provided at no cost to represent you.

So is it also in the office, just imagine that it are all small minded penguins (like me for instance).

[ Edit: Edited on Mar 8, 2007, at 8:46 AM by wouterrr ]

95. Posted by tway (Travel Guru 7273 posts) 9y

Quoting Mel.

Quoting Purdy

Where do you get off making such statements about someone you know NOTHING about?

Know nothing about?
Then tell me where on the internet, I can find research showing that u do in fact know what u are talking about. Or is there a book I can read, which details the research showing that there is less petty bitchiness, in male dominated environments. After I read these, then I will know what u know about it, and we can discuss, without u saying I know nothing about it.

Firstly, Purdy said someone you know nothing about - not something.

We all have our opinions about the subject, and what each of us is saying is based on observation and reflection. Theories and research are all fine and nice, but in practice each office environent operates on its own rhythm. I've not worked in two places that were remotely alike.

As one of my Account Directors likes to say, put a statistician's right foot in ice and his left in boling water and, according to the law of averages, he should be just the right temperature.

96. Posted by Isadora (Travel Guru 13926 posts) 9y

Quoting Mel.

Quoting tway

Quoting Isadora

Both men and women are primally designed to work together within their gender to accomplish certain goals such as food gathering, child rearing and the like. They are also designed to work across the sexes to reproduce. This basic attraction is what lets men and women work together with less friction than men with men or women with women.

My goodness, you've hit the nail on the head. Beautifully said, Isa! From now on, when I say "flirtation", I mean "what Isa said."

Excellent point, as always.

Isadora, do u know where I can find on the internet, information by experts, detailing why there would be less friction in a mixed sex working environment?;)

No, actually I don't. But, if I were going to look for such information I would start searching under "psychology of/in the workplace". I made my comments based on one of the psychology courses I took which covered some of the workplace dynamics from both the primal and modern day aspects, various seminars I had to attend being a manager/director, and from my own observations from the different places where I was employed. I have been the only woman in a department full of men (long before discrimination lawsuits were available), been part of a department comprised of one man and twelve women, and a couple situations where men and women were of almost equal proportion.

97. Posted by Isadora (Travel Guru 13926 posts) 9y

Quoting tway

[quote=Mel.]As one of my Account Directors likes to say, put a statistician's right foot in ice and his left in boling water and, according to the law of averages, he should be just the right temperature.

I hear that if your take away their calculators and don't let them play with algorithmic equations, their heads explode. It's not a pretty sight. Statistics - it's so over-rated.

98. Posted by Purdy (Travel Guru 3546 posts) 9y

Quoting Purdy

Quoting Mel.

Quoting Purdy

I work in a traditionally male dominated arena so there are less women generally but l hate silly bitchiness and issues festering and GENERALLY you dont get this working in a male dominated environment. Now its not perfect but its just my personal preference.

Would it be that your work is not at a competitive standard, and that is why u have not noticed that men are competitive?
And have u not heard them bitching about others, because they do not trust u, with their real feelings, about people?

Mel - l really dont know what you are trying to do here or imply to be honest - l have a very good job, you insinuate that my work is not at a competitive standard - what does that mean exactly? And as your last sentence - what are you implying again?

In a male dominated environment there is less petty bitchiness and minor issues being made into major ones. With predominately male environment the issues are brought to the fore head on and dealt with in a more open matter I prefer working in environment.

Where do you get off making such statements about someone you know NOTHING about?

Mel if you are going to quote what l have posted please quote me in totality not just parts of it so you can twist my words.

Tway has already commented saying the word l used was SOMEONE not something.

There is no research to what l state - like others l am commenting from experience from the work environment, therefore l cannot point you to anywhere on the internet to back up my words. I would note that the internet is not the only research tool available too us too - l can remember the days (and not too long ago) when the internet was a tool not used in research!

99. Posted by Isadora (Travel Guru 13926 posts) 9y

Quoting Purdy

I would note that the internet is not the only research tool available too us too - l can remember the days (and not too long ago) when the internet was a tool not used in research!

I remember when there was no internet. I used to go to the library. I miss the library... :(

100. Posted by beerman (Respected Member 1631 posts) 9y

OK, obviously Tway won't work with me here.......Purdy, what about you? Videos? C'mon, you can tell me......no one else will know.......

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