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1. Posted by Pardus (Respected Member 2356 posts) 9y

I just was about to reply to something in a different thread when I realised I was going completely off topic...

Quoting Isadora

Sasha Baron Cohen is under the same line of fire from Kazakhstan and Romania for his Borat movie. Mel Gibson was maligned by both Christians and Jews for The Passion of the Christ. Movies are movies and too many people take thier content way to seriously. And, once again, the media does not help this as they tout the "accuracy/signifigance/whatever" of these so-called historical epics. I think we could call it propagandizing for the purpose of record profits??

Well, the problem is that a lot of people can't distinguish between fact and fiction. It's surprising how many people believe what they see in movies. But I think the Iranian government is using the film to drive home their message about the decadence of Hollywood.
I have big issues with historical movies when it comes to authenticity. If you don't want to make it authentic then make it into a fantasy film (based on xxxxx). People now are going to think that the Spartans went into battle bare chested... Argh... I still believe Britain should have sued the producers of King Arthur for making a complete bollix of the whole story!!!!
And do NOT get me started on screen logic!!! Things like 1 guy on a horse galloping into hundreds of footsoldiers armed with spears and him having time to dismount and continue fighting on foot!!!!

2. Posted by beerman (Respected Member 1631 posts) 9y

You right b*st*rd!!!!! I suppose next you're going to tell us that the von Trapps didn't sing their way to the Pyrenees'..........

3. Posted by magykal1 (Travel Guru 2026 posts) 9y

Pardus, wouldn't it be impossible to put together a 'historically accurate' version of King Arthur? It's not clear what Arthur did or didn't do as the stories we know are cobbled together versions of various stories, mostly refined after the time and passed on via oral tradition until at least 6 centuries after Arthur was supposed to have lived. Some eminent historians believe that Arthur didn't exist at all!

I think we should let the Hollywoodians have their fun with this one - I'm certainly not going to do any sueing! I agree with Isa that people take the content of movies too seriously.

4. Posted by zanif (Full Member 113 posts) 9y

I love that movie, 300. Since it's based from a comic, I don't know why would people believe that Spartan men went to war half naked or the way King Xerxes looking all feminine and half naked too. It's based on a comic, for crying out loud.

Character and culture potrayals have always been an issue. Sierra Leone with 'Blood Diamond', China with 'Memoirs of a Geisha' and 'Seven Years in Tibet', Malaysia with 'Entrapment' and 'Zoolander', Zimbabwe with 'The Interpreter', Thailand with 'Anna & The King', Christians with 'The Da Vinci Code', etc. It never ends. Controversies are always good for movies.

5. Posted by Isadora (Travel Guru 13926 posts) 9y

Quoting magykal1

Pardus, wouldn't it be impossible to put together a 'historically accurate' version of King Arthur? It's not clear what Arthur did or didn't do as the stories we know are cobbled together versions of various stories, mostly refined after the time and passed on via oral tradition until at least 6 centuries after Arthur was supposed to have lived. Some eminent historians believe that Arthur didn't exist at all!

Please tell me this isn't true!!!! You mean he may not have pulled the sword from the stone and that Merlin and Morgana may just be a figments of my imagination??? I'm sufficiently crushed now...

I think we should let the Hollywoodians have their fun with this one - I'm certainly not going to do any sueing! I agree with Isa that people take the content of movies too seriously.

A movie that is truly historical will be aptly called a documentary. Though documentaries are not always historically factual, they do base their information on the documented facts at their disposal. Hollywood generated epic movies about historical events are never true to the story, either because the written description is unavailable or vague, or it's just too boring and would be 3 days long. These type of movies are entertaining snippits of historical events embellished with high-tech cinematography and CGI to make a good story and be visually exciting. The Passion of the Christ is a prime example of taking historical events and "portraying them truthfully as possible"... Who's truth, who's documented history (that hasn't been altered by centuries of rewrites), and where are the eye witnesses? (Just kiding on that last part...)

I suppose now someone's going to tell me that both Pirates of the Caribbean movies weren't real either... I know for a fact that pirates were real - I have books to prove it!

6. Posted by magykal1 (Travel Guru 2026 posts) 9y

Robin Hood also almost certainly didn't exist.

7. Posted by Jase007 (Travel Guru 8870 posts) 9y

The brits ought to sue Mel Gibson for his lovingly inaccurate portail of them in every film he's been in.
I just hope that some nations don't learn their history from films or this would be the sort of history they might think actually happened:
France actualy won a war
the United States singlehandedly won both world wars
George Bush has a brain cell
The vietnam war was won by the Americans
Chinese people can fly when fighting
All australians are ABBA fans and fight croc's
All brits are baddies (apart from those names James Bond)
Denim jeans were around in the days of the Roman Empire (Gladiator battle scene)
Pigs speak english (Babe)
Russians speak with a Scottish acent (hunt for red oktober)
French cars actually drive without falling apart
American cars go around corners
a motor bike has 1200 gears that need continually changing (Terminator)

oh the list goes on and on and on

8. Posted by magykal1 (Travel Guru 2026 posts) 9y

Some Chinese people can actually fly while fighting.

9. Posted by Isadora (Travel Guru 13926 posts) 9y

Quoting magykal1

Robin Hood also almost certainly didn't exist.

I don't think Maid Marion is going to like hearing that news one bit! But, maybe the convent is filtering her e-mail.

Quoting Jase007

1) France actualy won a war
2) the United States singlehandedly won both world wars
3) All australians are ABBA fans and fight croc's
4) Pigs speak english (Babe)

1) France has an army?
2) We didn't?
3) They don't? (Don't tell James!)
4) Yes, they do! I've heard them! They are also quite fluent in Albanian.

Isa must leave now because all of her beliefs about movies have been lies - nothing but lies.

10. Posted by Jase007 (Travel Guru 8870 posts) 9y

Quoting Isadora

Quoting magykal1

Robin Hood also almost certainly didn't exist.

I don't think Maid Marion is going to like hearing that news one bit! But, maybe the convent is filtering her e-mail.

Quoting Jase007

1) France actualy won a war
2) the United States singlehandedly won both world wars
3) All australians are ABBA fans and fight croc's
4) Pigs speak english (Babe)

1) France has an army?
2) We didn't?
3) They don't? (Don't tell James!)
4) Yes, they do! I've heard them! They are also quite fluent in Albanian.

Isa must leave now because all of her beliefs about movies have been lies - nothing but lies.

Bad Isa, keep taking the BLUE pills not the red ones .........